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<H1>[Mageia-sysadm] install of a websvn on svn server ?</H1>
<B>Dexter Morgan</B>
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<I>Tue Nov 9 19:29:56 CET 2010</I>
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<PRE>On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Michael scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote:
><i> On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 02:31:06PM +0100, Dexter Morgan wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> can you tell some other alternatives ? so we can take a look to them
</I>>><i> and choose the one that fit the more our needs.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We should maybe start by explicting the needs ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I can propose some :
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - must be able to enumerate distant svn ( unless we place it on valstar
</I>><i> , and I think we shouldn't for security reasons, as this is the
</I>><i> server that old all passwords and the future gpg key of
</I>><i> the distribution, among others, so it should IMHO be kept free
</I>><i> of interaction with internet as much as possible  )
</I>
Of course, i was thinking to add it on alamut or krampouezh
><i> - must be able to cope with big repository ( as Mandriva still suffer from
</I>><i> problem when looking at the svn for packages ). The patch for directory
</I>><i> limitation seems to have applied and lost on the viewvc we used ( one
</I>><i> more reason to use rpm of the distribution and to push patch upstream )
</I>
I think that here the main pb is that not a lot of that kind of tools
are used on big repos, so we may have
"surprises" when used.
><i> - must not be a ressources hog ( as it will likely be indexed sooner
</I>><i> or later by Google or a search engine, even if we can suppose
</I>><i> that robots.txt will be used to prevent that ). This also exclude
</I>><i> all setup based on basic CGI, for well know performance reasons.
</I>
how to know this ? is there some benchmark like tests ?
><i> - must be maintained, packaged, without a history full of security hole
</I>><i> that would make Berlin wall look rock solid in comparaison.
</I>
makes sense
><i> - do we plan to host git repository ? It seems so ( we did at mandriva,
</I>><i> and I think a growing number of contributers will want it ). Others
</I>><i> SCMs ? I do not know, but we should ask. ( but I never seen people asking
</I>><i> for bzr and hg hosting, maybe nanar for darcs ). We can also say this is
</I>><i> not the goal of this tool, as we did fr mdv.
</I>
for git this is an other story i think, that we will discuss on an
other story and btw having a git repo is i think a must have.
><i> - must be easy to theme
</I>><i> - should be without recompiling the whole rpm
</I>><i> - should not need to copy the css ( ie, take a distant one, as this
</I>><i> will ease the job of the webteam and help on perfs )
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - should support ACLs. While we do not need for the moment, but
</I>><i> this may be a need that will arise for the secteam or for keeping password
</I>><i> ( see my previous mail about it for extlookup, puppet and so one ).
</I>
i was just speaking of a websvn like, just a tool to "see" the svn not
to modify it.
><i> If we decide we need ACLs, we need to find how to plug them to ldap.
</I>><i> A simple apache module could do the trick, depend on the url used.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - should support non text content ( to display imagess )
</I>><i> for website for example.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - must handle diff ( for text )
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - should support syntax highligthing
</I>><i>
</I>><i> And finally, maybe ask directly to the people who will use if
</I>><i> they have some needs not fullfilled by the current tools ( without
</I>><i> getting out of the scope of the use case "look at svn using the web" )
</I>><i>
</I>><i> For example, a link to the bugtracker when we see #foo123 in commit message
</I>><i> would be nice. Some people also would like to see a nice ajax interface,
</I>><i> and some would like to have it working without it.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> And for tools proposal we can either use
</I>><i> websvn, viewvc, or try to use redmine/trac and hide everything
</I>><i> ( and I think we should rather avoid this solution ).
</I>><i> Some people on stackoverlow.com seems to say that usvn could be
</I>><i> used too ( even if it does much more than what we think ).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> There is also some other non free solution, like fisheye, but I would
</I>><i> not recommend for obvious reasons.
</I>><i> --
</I>><i> Michael Scherer
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