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   <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Packages SVN</H1>
    <B>Olivier Blin</B> 
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<PRE>Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; writes:

&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; For data ( icones, theme, images ), we can simply put them outside of
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; the svn, like we plan to do for tarballs. 
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The plan is to put tarballs in an additional SVN, right?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We still have to deal with that.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I tought the plan was to place the tarball outside of a VCS, ie either
</I>&gt;<i> download it on demand, or placed in a cache. So we could simply remove
</I>&gt;<i> them from the cache when needed.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Now, maybe I misunderstood the new system, so could you explain what it
</I>&gt;<i> will be ?
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I didn't go much in details in the repsys doc boklm sent in the initial
message of this thread, but IIRC, it mentionned having a SVN repo for
SOURCES-bin

&gt;&gt;<i> IHMO, we shouldn't take the risk of hosting Mandriva material, even if
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this will slow down the process.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> We would not be more at fault than plf.zarb.org or any mirrors on that
</I>&gt;<i> regard ( especially mirrors ). And they could hardly say &quot;using our GPL
</I>&gt;<i> software is a violation of our trademark&quot; without being inconsistent on
</I>&gt;<i> that matter, and they didn't protect their mark . 
</I>
Using their free software is ok, but using it by keeping their brand
is probably not.

&gt;<i> Hence my request for a specialized lawyer for the non visible cases, and
</I>&gt;<i> see what would be considered as a fair use based on existing judgement.
</I>
Agreed

&gt;<i> While I agree that we should of course not use the name Mandriva in a
</I>&gt;<i> very visible way ( since this is not a method ), having it in the svn
</I>&gt;<i> for a non released software is likely less a problem. 
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> For example, based on the only similar case of people who have been
</I>&gt;<i> really sued and lost I can think of ( ie mandrake ), there is still case
</I>&gt;<i> where Mandrake word is displayed :
</I>
[...]

&gt;<i> They have likely contacted a lawyer ( at least, I hope so, even if we
</I>&gt;<i> cannot be sure ), and based on that decided that this were fair use of
</I>&gt;<i> the trademark ( at least, the lawyer of the opposite party did ). 
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Or maybe they are just careless or too busy, given the problem in
</I>&gt;<i> FAQ :/ 
</I>
I think that Hearst was more concerned about the company and product
names (as well as images), it was probably not very cost-effective for
them to push too much in details.
But in our case, we are operating in the same market as Mandriva, and
they could get very picky.

-- 
Olivier Blin - blino
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