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<H1>[Mageia-i18n] What was wrong with Transifex?</H1>
<B>Yaron Shahrabani</B>
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<PRE>LOLz you're talking to the coordinator of VLC translation (look at my
profile) ☺
Yaron Shahrabani
<Hebrew translator>
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Catalin Florin RUSSEN
<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk</A>>wrote:
><i> You're ON! Plz, don't blow everything :D
</I>><i>
</I>><i> ---
</I>><i> Florin Catalin RUSSEN
</I>><i> Mageia i18n - Romanian Team
</I>><i> "You don't need eyes to see, you need vision!"
</I>><i>
</I>><i> ------------------------------
</I>><i> *From:* Yaron Shahrabani <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">sh.yaron at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> *To:* List dedicated to internationalisation issues <
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 April 2013, 15:34
</I>><i>
</I>><i> *Subject:* Re: [Mageia-i18n] What was wrong with Transifex?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Give me permissions...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yaron Shahrabani
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <Hebrew translator>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Catalin Florin RUSSEN <
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk</A>> wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I'm not sure that this can be done with Tx.net (the translations are
</I>><i> stored online, we had to get them and upload on svn after), but if you know
</I>><i> how to do it, show the way...
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Cheers,
</I>><i> ---
</I>><i> Florin Catalin RUSSEN
</I>><i> Mageia i18n - Romanian Team
</I>><i> "You don't need eyes to see, you need vision!"
</I>><i>
</I>><i> ------------------------------
</I>><i> *From:* Yaron Shahrabani <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">sh.yaron at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> *To:* List dedicated to internationalisation issues <
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 April 2013, 14:49
</I>><i>
</I>><i> *Subject:* Re: [Mageia-i18n] What was wrong with Transifex?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Hey, I think it would be better to create a separate repository for
</I>><i> translations, this way the translations will be saved in a managed location
</I>><i> instead of Transifex.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yaron Shahrabani
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <Hebrew translator>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Catalin Florin RUSSEN <
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk</A>> wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Hi everybody,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Tx is a good translation platform, but may be we wanted too much from it
</I>><i> and too fast.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So, it is allways possible to work with it - at least till we find and
</I>><i> test a good and stable solution - as it follows:
</I>><i> - create a Tx project, I've created one to test:
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/mageia-test/">https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/mageia-test/</A>
</I>><i> - team members can work with it online,
</I>><i> - team submitters gather the files and manually update them on svn,
</I>><i> - this way "no svn" translators can use Tx online or download the files
</I>><i> from websvn, translate them offline, and send them back to the submitter,
</I>><i> - the submitter fill the gap between the Tx and svn, this way he can check
</I>><i> and validate the updated strings.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Oliver and Remy has to rely on team leaders and their assistants to ease
</I>><i> their job and content to simply supervise them.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Having a collaborative tool, even is it's not perfect, is better than not
</I>><i> tool at all.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Cheers,
</I>><i> ---
</I>><i> Florin Catalin RUSSEN
</I>><i> Mageia i18n - Romanian Team
</I>><i> "You don't need eyes to see, you need vision!"
</I>><i>
</I>><i> ------------------------------
</I>><i> *From:* Yaron Shahrabani <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">sh.yaron at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> *To:* List dedicated to internationalisation issues <
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 April 2013, 11:27
</I>><i> *Subject:* Re: [Mageia-i18n] What was wrong with Transifex?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I think it can also push back, I've done it with Github once, we can set
</I>><i> up a test repository and see if it works before moving it into production.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yaron Shahrabani
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <Hebrew translator>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:47 AM, atilla ontas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>>wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 2013/4/3 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">oliver.bgr at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Just to summarize for those of you, who were not with us in the beginning:
</I>><i> - It was decided to use a web plattform, that can be used with our mageia
</I>><i> accounts
</I>><i> - At that time we opted for tx, because it "looked good"
</I>><i> - Tx always was a pain for me and akien because it does not have an svn
</I>><i> integration, so we had to sync manually between the svn and the tx database
</I>><i> - At some time something broke inside the tx database, we were never quite
</I>><i> sure, what it was but it resulted in having loads of untranslated strings
</I>><i> in the po files although they were translated in tx
</I>><i> - When our servers were updated from Mdv2010.1 (which they were using in
</I>><i> the beginning) to Mga1, something broke, misc (our then tx maintainer) who
</I>><i> did try to solve it never found out, what it was, it must have been
</I>><i> something with the underlying software (python, django, postgres, whatever)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So yes, we do need a web platform. It should be
</I>><i> - easy to use for those i18n people who are not fond of using svn
</I>><i> - easy to maintain for the i18n team leaders (meaning it SHOULD have an
</I>><i> svn integration
</I>><i> - easy to maintain for our sysadmins
</I>><i> - give those people who prefer working directly with svn the freedom to do
</I>><i> so
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As I see it, tx.net can't do that, but if you show me I'm wrong, I'm glad
</I>><i> to learn...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Cheers,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Oliver
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Thank you. Did you read <A HREF="http://help.transifex.com/intro/one-dot-zero.html?">http://help.transifex.com/intro/one-dot-zero.html?</A> From that page, i understand that tx can pull directly from VCS. But it
</I>><i> won't push back. Is it main problem? I didn't search for other problems, i
</I>><i> think those won't be problem if we use tx.net instead of own
</I>><i> installation.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I think a script can do svn push in tx. Add it to svn server as a cron job
</I>><i> and it directly pull from tx and submit to svn. Is it so hard? I haven't
</I>><i> look in Pootle. May be it worths than tx.
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