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<B>atilla ontas</B>
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<PRE>2013/4/1 Yuri Chornoivan <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">yurchor at ukr.net</A>>
><i> Hi,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Just some points below.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:52:08 +0300 було написано atilla ontas <
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Good night everyone. I was long gone previous year. Now back to work and
</I>>><i> begin to contribute. I have missed the Transifex issue. As i read from
</I>>><i> mailing list archives, the problem was our transifex installation and as i
</I>>><i> see from bug reports there are few to maintain mageia transifex. So, we
</I>>><i> abandoned Tx. But now there is no other web interface for i18n tasks.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> I' m Turkish coordinator of Transifex, Archlinux AUR translation projects
</I>>><i> and contributor to others as well. I do not see issues for them those we
</I>>><i> had with our tx, So, i want to ask; can't we use transifex.net instead of
</I>>><i> installing and trying to maintain our tx? Is it hard or impossible?
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As a Fedora Ukrainian team coordinator I have to say that there is no
</I>><i> problems with tx.net instance from the translator side. It is just
</I>><i> problematic for developers. They constantly forget to do tx pull/tx push in
</I>><i> Fedora which leads to untranslated apps. Moreover, to be able to run such
</I>><i> commands it is necessary to have the last versions of tx packages in
</I>><i> Mageia. So we need a maintainer.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> To sum up:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 1. Transifex cannot commit directly into SVN and Pootle can.
</I>><i> 2. We have Friedel Wolff to help us with Pootle and no maintainer for tx
</I>><i> packages now.
</I>><i> 3. Developers have not said anything about if they can or want to add "tx
</I>><i> pull" into Makefiles. So we first need to hear from them and the Board to
</I>><i> switch to tx.net.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I know, Pootle is an alternative but if we try to install it under
</I>>><i> mageia.org domain and try to maintain it i think it would be hard. I
</I>>><i> mean,
</I>>><i> few people to maintain and lack of time may be problem. What do you think?
</I>>><i> Or i missed too much about this particular issue?
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So it is just a question on what packages will be maintained, Pootle or
</I>><i> Transifex. So it is again a question of maintainership.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Also, did Launchpad be considered for this?
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 1. Launchpad needs the whole project directly synced/hosted into Bazaar in
</I>><i> LP itself.
</I>><i> 2. Launchpad needs the POTs to be build during general make cycle (now
</I>><i> they are updated/build by specialized Perl scripts).
</I>><i> 3. Launchpad builds Debian-format packages only and Mageia is a Red
</I>><i> Hat-type distribution (RPM).
</I>><i> 4. Launchpad does not allow direct downloading/uploading translation. You
</I>><i> have to wait for several hours just to download/upload a translated file.
</I>><i> 4. Launchpad Rosetta module is unmaintained (see the constant "Timed out"
</I>><i> errors that appears everywhere).
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I think, at least our Turkish team needs such an interface. I was sole
</I>>><i> Turkish translator for 4 years with Mandriva and it was a real pain.
</I>>><i> Without such a web interface most people do not want to use svn, git etc.
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Ok. If we can find a maintainer for Pootle/Transifex/Weblate/what-**so-ever
</I>><i> packages we can talk about web translation. And if we (as a translation
</I>><i> team) failed to do so, it is better to leave things as is and do not push
</I>><i> on the current maintainers. They are already too overloaded.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Just my 2 cents.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Best regards,
</I>><i> Yuri
</I>><i>
</I>Thank you very much Yuri, Yours is a good explanation. I hope we can find
maintainers for Pootle or Transifex
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