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<H1>[Mageia-i18n] Mageia-i18n Digest, Vol 26, Issue 18</H1>
<B>Marcio Padula Padula</B>
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<PRE>Hi
Filip
Thanks, will be excellent substitute team leader be pt-BR Adjamilton's
(leader), accepted the invitation ...
Thank you to all
Padula
translator pt-BR
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</I>><i> 1. [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems (drakconf) (Filip Komar)
</I>><i> 2. Re: Mageia-i18n Digest, Vol 26, Issue 15 (Filip Komar)
</I>><i> 3. [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems (drakconf) (Marja van Waes)
</I>><i> 4. [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems (drakconf) (Marja van Waes)
</I>><i> 5. [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems (drakconf) (Shlomi Fish)
</I>><i> 6. Re: Mageia-i18n Digest, Vol 26, Issue 15 (Adjamilton J?nior)
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</I>><i>
</I>><i> Message: 1
</I>><i> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:34:42 +0200
</I>><i> From: Filip Komar <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems
</I>><i> (drakconf)
</I>><i> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">20121014103442.3898546651 at alamut.mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> --- Comment #27 from Filip Komar <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">filip.komar at gmail.com</A>> 2012-10-14
</I>><i> 12:34:40 CEST ---
</I>><i> (In reply to comment #23)
</I>><i> > NO!!!!
</I>><i> > It should _NOT_ be hardcoded.
</I>><i> Thanks for clarification.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > And anyway nobody will be able to commit such a file (check is done prior
</I>><i> > accepting commiting).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Are you sure that precommit hooks works as they should? I'm asking as bug
</I>><i> 6816
</I>><i> is not closed yet. As a consequence there are still several pot files which
</I>><i> don't pass msgfmt -c test. I hope that someone will dive there soon. We
</I>><i> need
</I>><i> sysadmins and i18n members for solving this situation and thus avoiding
</I>><i> bugs as
</I>><i> this one in the first place.
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</I>><i> Message: 2
</I>><i> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 12:37:54 +0200
</I>><i> From: Filip Komar <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">filip.komar at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> To: List dedicated to internationalisation issues
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</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-i18n] Mageia-i18n Digest, Vol 26, Issue 15
</I>><i> Message-ID:
</I>><i> <
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">CAPDQr5KRgo7v+m7gmZJBHugdi17mQYc71uiD8eMX3qG8ezCW6g at mail.gmail.com</A>>
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</I>><i> Hi Marcio.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On 14 October 2012 01:02, Marcio Padula Padula <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">padula1000 at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> wrote:
</I>><i> > I'm not getting in touch with the translation
</I>><i> > leader en do not have password from svn to transmit files from the
</I>><i> command
</I>><i> > line
</I>><i>
</I>><i> You can become pt-br team leader substitute and you will get commit
</I>><i> rights with that.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Have a nice day,
</I>><i> Filip.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> ------------------------------
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Message: 3
</I>><i> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:25:39 +0200
</I>><i> From: Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems
</I>><i> (drakconf)
</I>><i> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">20121014142539.BE1BF466E1 at alamut.mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> --- Comment #28 from Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>> 2012-10-14
</I>><i> 16:25:38 CEST ---
</I>><i> (In reply to comment #25)
</I>><i> > (In reply to comment #24)
</I>><i> > > I didn't find time to work out how to run msgfmt -c properly. I got:
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$ msgfmt -c proposed_%s_he.po
</I>><i> > > [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > where I had expected to see some messages.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > That probably means no errors :)
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > you can use -cv to make it more verbose...
</I>><i> >
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Thanks :) Now I got:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$ LC_ALL=C msgfmt -cv proposed_%s_he.po
</I>><i> 352 translated messages, 11 fuzzy translations, 5 untranslated messages.
</I>><i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Is that good enough if there aren't any not translated or wrongly
</I>><i> translated
</I>><i> strings in MCC?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> @ Max and/or Shlomi,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Could you please test the attached po file with the steps tv explained in
</I>><i> comment 22? I wouldn't be able to notice any regressions in the
</I>><i> translations
</I>><i>
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</I>><i> Message: 4
</I>><i> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:36:00 +0200
</I>><i> From: Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems
</I>><i> (drakconf)
</I>><i> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">20121014143600.D935C466A0 at alamut.mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> --- Comment #29 from Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>> 2012-10-14
</I>><i> 16:35:59 CEST ---
</I>><i> Oops
</I>><i>
</I>><i> s/comment 22/comment 23/
</I>><i>
</I>><i> (thx Shlomi)
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</I>><i> Message: 5
</I>><i> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:37:12 +0200
</I>><i> From: Shlomi Fish <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems
</I>><i> (drakconf)
</I>><i> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">20121014143712.305AC4664F at alamut.mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> --- Comment #30 from Shlomi Fish <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">shlomif at iglu.org.il</A>> 2012-10-14
</I>><i> 16:37:11 CEST ---
</I>><i> (In reply to comment #28)
</I>><i> > (In reply to comment #25)
</I>><i> > > (In reply to comment #24)
</I>><i> > > > I didn't find time to work out how to run msgfmt -c properly. I got:
</I>><i> > > >
</I>><i> > > > [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$ msgfmt -c proposed_%s_he.po
</I>><i> > > > [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$
</I>><i> > > >
</I>><i> > > > where I had expected to see some messages.
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > That probably means no errors :)
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > you can use -cv to make it more verbose...
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Thanks :) Now I got:
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$ LC_ALL=C msgfmt -cv proposed_%s_he.po
</I>><i> > 352 translated messages, 11 fuzzy translations, 5 untranslated messages.
</I>><i> > [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Is that good enough if there aren't any not translated or wrongly
</I>><i> translated
</I>><i> > strings in MCC?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > @ Max and/or Shlomi,
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Could you please test the attached po file with the steps tv explained in
</I>><i> > comment 22? I wouldn't be able to notice any regressions in the
</I>><i> translations
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Marja said she meant comment 23 .
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Regards,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> -- Shlomi Fish
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</I>><i> Message: 6
</I>><i> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:08:20 -0300
</I>><i> From: Adjamilton J?nior <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">ajunior at brasifort.com.br</A>>
</I>><i> To: List dedicated to internationalisation issues
</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-i18n] Mageia-i18n Digest, Vol 26, Issue 15
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</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">CQ at mail.gmail.com</A>>
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</I>><i> Hi Marcio,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I'm a pt_BR translation leader.
</I>><i> In this moment I'm a bit busy with my Electrical Engineer course but you
</I>><i> can send me a mail ever when need. In November I'm become more present in
</I>><i> Mageia.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Cheers,
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Adjamilton J?nior
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 2012/10/13 Marcio Padula Padula <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">padula1000 at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > Ola
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Filip
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Thank you for your attention, I'm not getting in touch with the
</I>><i> > translation leader en do not have password from svn to transmit files
</I>><i> from
</I>><i> > the command line, it was because of this that I am sending translations
</I>><i> via
</I>><i> > email to <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>, near translations I will attach several
</I>><i> > files into one so email ok ...
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Thank you Filip
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > 2012/10/13 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n-request at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >
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</I>><i> >> Today's Topics:
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> 1. Re: translation en/about/code-of-conduct.en.lang to the file
</I>><i> >> pt-br/about/code-of-conduct.pt-br.lang (Filip Komar)
</I>><i> >> 2. [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems (drakconf) (Marja van Waes)
</I>><i> >> 3. [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems (drakconf) (Marja van Waes)
</I>><i> >> 4. [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems (drakconf) (Filip Komar)
</I>><i> >> 5. [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems (drakconf)
</I>><i> >> (Thierry Vignaud)
</I>><i> >> 6. [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems (drakconf) (Marja van Waes)
</I>><i> >> 7. [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems (drakconf)
</I>><i> >> (Thomas Backlund)
</I>><i> >> 8. translation of the donate.en.lang file to the
</I>><i> >> donate.pt-br.lang for the global mageia (Marcio Padula Padula)
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Message: 1
</I>><i> >> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:31:32 +0200
</I>><i> >> From: Filip Komar <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">filip.komar at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> >> To: List dedicated to internationalisation issues
</I>><i> >> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> Subject: Re: [Mageia-i18n] translation
</I>><i> >> en/about/code-of-conduct.en.lang to the file
</I>><i> >> pt-br/about/code-of-conduct.pt-br.lang
</I>><i> >> Message-ID:
</I>><i> >> <CAPDQr5LY9ZEQu7jSYV+vrnKxwvCS2X0XChqt6rBoH0=
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">Zqu1Ysw at mail.gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Hi Padula.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Nice work!
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> I just switched pt-br donate and code-of-conduct pages from php to
</I>><i> >> lang system. Please check if it's OK.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Can you please next time attach your translations as files in one
</I>><i> >> email rather then several emails like you did until now? Or even
</I>><i> >> better commit them as Yuri suggested. See some more about that on
</I>><i> >> links on the bottom.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Following sentence in constitution.*.lang is actually note to
</I>><i> >> translators and not something to translate ;). See
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Internationalisation_Team_%28i18n%29#Special_cases_of_web_pages">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Internationalisation_Team_%28i18n%29#Special_cases_of_web_pages</A>
</I>><i> >> to see what exactly you should do.
</I>><i> >> Please translate first "mageia.org_statutes_fr.md" or
</I>><i> >> "mageia.org_statutes_en.md" as a fallback. Check wiki for details.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Useful links for web pages translation:
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/langs/report.php">http://www.mageia.org/langs/report.php</A>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Internationalisation_Team_%28i18n%29#Website_translation">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Internationalisation_Team_%28i18n%29#Website_translation</A>
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Svn_for_translators">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Svn_for_translators</A>
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Guide_for_i18n_commiters">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Guide_for_i18n_commiters</A>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Thanks for your work,
</I>><i> >> Filip.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> ------------------------------
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Message: 2
</I>><i> >> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:09:51 +0200
</I>><i> >> From: Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> >> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems
</I>><i> >> (drakconf)
</I>><i> >> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">20121013160951.B07C246519 at alamut.mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416</A>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --- Comment #20 from Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>> 2012-10-13
</I>><i> >> 18:09:49 CEST ---
</I>><i> >> Created attachment 2939
</I>><i> >> --> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/attachment.cgi?id=2939">https://bugs.mageia.org/attachment.cgi?id=2939</A>
</I>><i> >> proposed_he.po without needed %s
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> (In reply to comment #16)
</I>><i> >> > %s will be replaced at run time by another string.
</I>><i> >> > In most of these cases, it'll be "Mageia".
</I>><i> >> > However previously, "Mandriva" was hardcoded but in Hebrew.
</I>><i> >> > It should be pretty straightforward for one that can read Hebrew to
</I>><i> >> replace
</I>><i> >> > "Mandriva" or "Mandriva Linux" in Hebrew by "%s"
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> I'm afraid it is not that easy.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> It seems impossible to do that, if you add it on the good end of a
</I>><i> >> string, the
</I>><i> >> %s jumps to the wrong end of it. If you add it on the wrong end, it
</I>><i> stays
</I>><i> >> on
</I>><i> >> the wrong end and won't jump to the good end. Is it allowed to combine a
</I>><i> >> LTR
</I>><i> >> with a RTL language between ""?.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> In revision 6106 (where tv added Max's fix) there was one instance of
</I>><i> >> Mandriva
</I>><i> >> Linux ("??????? ??????")left, in the attached file it is replaced by
</I>><i> >> Mageia
</I>><i> >> ("????"), and there were about 10 "Mageia Linux"'s, so in the attached
</I>><i> >> file
</I>><i> >> "???? ??????" was replaced by "????" only.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> I didn't run the check Filip proposed (sorry Filip, but the check will
</I>><i> >> fail
</I>><i> >> anyway, and I'm not in i18n)
</I>><i> >>
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</I>><i> >> Message: 3
</I>><i> >> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:44:32 +0200
</I>><i> >> From: Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> >> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems
</I>><i> >> (drakconf)
</I>><i> >> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">20121013164432.7FC30464F1 at alamut.mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416</A>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --- Comment #21 from Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>> 2012-10-13
</I>><i> >> 18:44:31 CEST ---
</I>><i> >> I found a way to add the %s, if it should go at the end of a Hebrew
</I>><i> >> string:
</I>><i> >> Using kwrite: first, type '"%s ' on the left of that string, then remove
</I>><i> >> '"????'
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> However, is it worth the trouble... is there any guarantee it will work?
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Depending on which tool you use to look at the he.po file, you can see
</I>><i> >> very
</I>><i> >> weird things, for instance the first letter of a word being put at the
</I>><i> >> end of
</I>><i> >> it, or a string like '(%s)\n' being shown as 's)\n(%'
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> It is worst when using vim: the letters constantly change places if you
</I>><i> >> try to
</I>><i> >> edit something
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --
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</I>><i> >> ------------------------------
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Message: 4
</I>><i> >> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:49:24 +0200
</I>><i> >> From: Filip Komar <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> >> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems
</I>><i> >> (drakconf)
</I>><i> >> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">20121013164924.EB2BF4657F at alamut.mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416</A>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --- Comment #22 from Filip Komar <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">filip.komar at gmail.com</A>> 2012-10-13
</I>><i> >> 18:49:24 CEST ---
</I>><i> >> Thanks for your help Marja. It seems that we should be practical and
</I>><i> just
</I>><i> >> hardcode Mageia in those strings. If Max can check if txt is OK in MCC
</I>><i> >> with the
</I>><i> >> new file we improved situation anyway.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Maybe someone with some experience about LTR/RTL can jump in.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --
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</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> ------------------------------
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Message: 5
</I>><i> >> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:25:01 +0200
</I>><i> >> From: Thierry Vignaud <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> >> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems
</I>><i> >> (drakconf)
</I>><i> >> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">20121013192501.0EB7B46552 at alamut.mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416</A>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --- Comment #23 from Thierry Vignaud <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> >> 2012-10-13 21:24:59 CEST ---
</I>><i> >> NO!!!!
</I>><i> >> It should _NOT_ be hardcoded.
</I>><i> >> And anyway nobody will be able to commit such a file (check is done
</I>><i> prior
</I>><i> >> accepting commiting).
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> The string "%s" will be replaced at runtime by the translation of
</I>><i> "Mageia"
</I>><i> >> which will be LTR too, thus a LTR string inserted in a LTR string at
</I>><i> "%s"
</I>><i> >> position.
</I>><i> >> This won't be a problem.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> You can easily check by running the following command as root:
</I>><i> >> "msgfmt -o /usr/share/locale/he/LC_MESSAGES/drakconf.mo he.po"
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Then just start mcc in order to check your translations.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --
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</I>><i> >> You are the assignee for the bug.
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</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> ------------------------------
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Message: 6
</I>><i> >> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:39:17 +0000
</I>><i> >> From: Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> >> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems
</I>><i> >> (drakconf)
</I>><i> >> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">20121013213917.82F07465B5 at alamut.mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416</A>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>> changed:
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> What |Removed |Added
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
</I>><i> >> Attachment #2939|0 |1
</I>><i> >> is obsolete| |
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --- Comment #24 from Marja van Waes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>> 2012-10-14
</I>><i> >> 01:39:16 CEST ---
</I>><i> >> Created attachment 2940
</I>><i> >> --> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/attachment.cgi?id=2940">https://bugs.mageia.org/attachment.cgi?id=2940</A>
</I>><i> >> proposed he.po with %s
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Replacing ????, where needed, with %s went well with gvim (even though
</I>><i> >> gvim
</I>><i> >> showed the characters in the strings in reversed order)
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> After that I replaced ???? in the Mandriva changelog with ???????,
</I>><i> because
</I>><i> >> there Mandriva should be kept, but didn't care very much about the
</I>><i> >> commented
</I>><i> >> out lines at the end of the file.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> I didn't find time to work out how to run msgfmt -c properly. I got:
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$ msgfmt -c proposed_%s_he.po
</I>><i> >> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> where I had expected to see some messages.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> So
</I>><i> >> * the file needs to be checked by someone who speaks Hebrew
</I>><i> >> * the msgfmt -c check still needs to be done
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Feel free to do that :)
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --
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</I>><i> >> ------------------------------
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Message: 7
</I>><i> >> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:44:10 +0200
</I>><i> >> From: Thomas Backlund <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> >> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] [Bug 6416] Hebrew translation problems
</I>><i> >> (drakconf)
</I>><i> >> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">20121013214410.43A45465B5 at alamut.mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6416</A>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Thomas Backlund <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">tmb at iki.fi</A>> changed:
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> What |Removed |Added
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
</I>><i> >> CC| |<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">tmb at iki.fi</A>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --- Comment #25 from Thomas Backlund <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">tmb at iki.fi</A>> 2012-10-13 23:44:09
</I>><i> >> CEST ---
</I>><i> >> (In reply to comment #24)
</I>><i> >> > I didn't find time to work out how to run msgfmt -c properly. I got:
</I>><i> >> >
</I>><i> >> > [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$ msgfmt -c proposed_%s_he.po
</I>><i> >> > [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marja at Denkblok2</A> Documents]$
</I>><i> >> >
</I>><i> >> > where I had expected to see some messages.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> That probably means no errors :)
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> you can use -cv to make it more verbose...
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> if you still get no output, loose the %s in the filename as it might
</I>><i> >> confuse
</I>><i> >> msgfmt...
</I>><i> >>
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</I>><i> >> Message: 8
</I>><i> >> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:27:55 -0300
</I>><i> >> From: Marcio Padula Padula <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">padula1000 at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> >> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>
</I>><i> >> Subject: [Mageia-i18n] translation of the donate.en.lang file to the
</I>><i> >> donate.pt-br.lang for the global mageia
</I>><i> >> Message-ID:
</I>><i> >> <CADmn7zavgviCLYFqHzWEh2q3tE=
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">rYh4Eca9uBc7iPiCGw4KeQg at mail.gmail.com</A>>
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</I>><i> >> Hello everyone
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> translation of the *donate.en.lang* file to the *donate.pt-br.lang* for
</I>><i> >> the
</I>><i> >> global mageia
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</I>><i> >> *----------------------*
</I>><i> >> Differences between en/donate.en.lang source and pt-br target1 notrans:
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> ;etc.
</I>><i> >> e outros servi?os gerais.
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</I>><i> >> thanks to all
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