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<B>Adjamilton Júnior</B>
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<PRE>Hi Wolfgang,
I will be present in the meeting representing the Brazil team.
Júnior
2010/12/1 Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>
><i> Hi all,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As announced in the latest blog entry (<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=271">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=271</A> )
</I>><i> the founders asked me to start building the i18n and documentation
</I>><i> team organisation. As the documentation section is still under
</I>><i> construction I will postpone the building of this team until open
</I>><i> questions are answered (as a preview, Calenco (<A HREF="http://www.calenco.com">http://www.calenco.com</A>)
</I>><i> will possibly be chosen as collaboration tool for that).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So let's start right away with the procedure (please read to the end
</I>><i> to get all infos):
</I>><i>
</I>><i> First I want to make a distinction between the translation of
</I>><i> application menues/strings translation and floating text translation
</I>><i> of documents. As everybody knows there are important differences in
</I>><i> the workflow, the tools, etc. between these 2 sections of i18n,
</I>><i> although there are many translators working in both areas. I want to
</I>><i> focus on the application translation first because text translation
</I>><i> depends on the documentation team's work, which is not yet ready to
</I>><i> go.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I suggest the following steps:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - Announce team bulding on the i18n list (this mail here)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - Let language teams organize themselves internally, name contacts/team
</I>><i> leaders
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - First meeting on IRC
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> The simple task of this team building process is to organize all the
</I>><i> different language groups, find a way for general discussions,
</I>><i> participate in regular meetings, choose the representatives which will
</I>><i> report to the community council and/or be the contact for the council.
</I>><i> This will be achieved in several steps:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - setting an organisational structure for each language. This will be
</I>><i> done inside each group. The task of the internal groups is to
</I>><i> implement short communication ways inside each language group to
</I>><i> coordinate work for the language in question. This way local
</I>><i> discussions will not clutter the i18n mailing list. Another task may
</I>><i> be to "hire" more people interested in this line of work. There are
</I>><i> many translators out there who would help translating documents but
</I>><i> not so many who woould do the "string work". We should find ways to
</I>><i> improve this situation :)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - - Each language group can set up their own mailing list or wiki
</I>><i> page (example: French and German) for internal communication. If there
</I>><i> is a necessity to set up a mailing list on the Mageia server pls tell
</I>><i> me.
</I>><i> - - Each language group selects 2 "contacts" which may be also the
</I>><i> team leaders but not necessary. These contacts will meet regularly on
</I>><i> IRC - please only one (1) person per language - with the contacts of
</I>><i> other language groups to discuss and report from and to their language
</I>><i> group
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I discovered that a large number of people who have put their names on
</I>><i> the wiki page for translation work are not subscribed to this list. I
</I>><i> can't possibly add more than 70 addresses to this mail, so I suggest
</I>><i> that those who are subscribed may tell others they know in their
</I>><i> language group about all this. We may find a better solution in the
</I>><i> first meeting. I will of course copy this information on the top of
</I>><i> the wiki page as well.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I'd like to see the internal organisation done by Wednesday next week,
</I>><i> at least a "get together" and the selection of the contacts and/or
</I>><i> leaders. So, pls stick your heads together and talk to each other :)
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 2. First meeting
</I>><i>
</I>><i> First meeting should be next week. As time/date I suggest Thursday,
</I>><i> December 9, 2010, at 18:00 Paris time (GMT +1).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I know that it is difficult to set a time/date which will suit
</I>><i> everybody because we are living in different time zones. We may find a
</I>><i> solution during discussing this in the meeting, a possible solution
</I>><i> may be a changing time every other week, so everybody will find a time
</I>><i> which suits him. Of course there will be meeting logs available in the
</I>><i> wiki so everybody can follow the logs and discuss in his language
</I>><i> group or in this list here.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Meetings will be held in #mageia-i18n on Freenode.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I will hold the chair for the first meeting, then we will see if
</I>><i> anybody wants to do that or if I go on.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Participants will be the contacts of the language groups but, again, -
</I>><i> PLEASE - only one person per language. Meeting experiences have shown
</I>><i> that there is a limit of participants above which an organized meeting
</I>><i> is not possible (see full logs of the founders meetings to understand
</I>><i> what I mean with "organized meetings") :)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Suggested topics of the 1st meeting will be:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - setting of team structures (internal per language, overall
</I>><i> structure, naming of leaders and contacts to report to community
</I>><i> council)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - General i18n wiki page, mailing lists (wiki page should link with
</I>><i> documentation wiki wrt i18n HowTos), what do we need?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - collaboration tools for i18n
</I>><i> - - Transifex is already set on the server. It may be good if
</I>><i> somebody who knows it could give a bit of insight during the meeting
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Meeting should not be longer than 2 hours, exceptions possible. The
</I>><i> first meeting I expect to be a little longer as we will set the first
</I>><i> stones.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Then we'll go from there.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Comments welcome.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> --
</I>><i> wobo
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