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    <B>Claire Robinson</B> 
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    <I>Wed Feb  8 13:47:41 CET 2012</I>
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<PRE>On 08/02/12 12:35, Michael Scherer wrote:
&gt;<i> Le mercredi 08 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 08:47 -0300, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati a
</I>&gt;<i> &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday 08 Feb 2012 08:37 my mailbox was graced by a message from Claire
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Robinson who wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I ended up installing Mageia 1 on his box, but I wonder why does the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distribution allow the user to potentially hose his system, when it
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> requires the root password to install a prog ?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Would it not make more sense to ask for the root password for the updates?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It is configurable in MCC. You can find it under Security =&gt;  Configure
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> authentication for Mageia Tools.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just select root for Update.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Brilliant, thanks.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But would it not make more sense to have the default changed to root ?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> That totally miss the point, which is that a upgrade hosed the system.
</I>&gt;<i> Would requiring the root password have changed that ? I doubt.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> However, if the user cannot do upgrade without asking to someone else
</I>&gt;<i> ( because that's the whole point of having 2 different passwords, else,
</I>&gt;<i> that's just a nuisance that will confuse most people ), then he will
</I>&gt;<i> likely miss security and bugfixes updates, and that's problematic.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> And I truly doubt that having a separate person ( ie, asking to someone
</I>&gt;<i> else who has the root password ) would have avoid any issues due to
</I>&gt;<i> upgrade. I am pretty sure that both of us would have also updated the
</I>&gt;<i> computer.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> The risk is the lack of QA, and I have been repeating this since a long
</I>&gt;<i> time. If people cannot trust updates, they will use them, and they face
</I>&gt;<i> issues and security problems, and that will tarnish our reputation,
</I>&gt;<i> among others.
</I>

I don't think QA is an issue regarding updates to 1. Do you really feel 
that way or were you meaning in a more general way?

Ensuring an upgrade path from Mandriva 2010.2 is really something we (QA 
team) would expect maintainers to maintain.


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