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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] Unhelpful update changelogs</H1>
<B>Claire Robinson</B>
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<PRE>On 04/01/12 18:12, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
><i> 2012/1/4 Claire Robinson<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>>><i> On 04/01/12 17:04, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Hello,
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Not sure I'm missing something, but when there's a software upgrade
</I>>>><i> available (either in rpmdrake, or in the update manager), say today's
</I>>>><i> Pidgin:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Version : 2.10.1-1.mga1
</I>>>><i> Version actuellement installée : 2.10.0-1.1.mga1
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> the changelog doesn't display specifically the changes for that update:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> * dim. 11 déc. 2011 13:00:00 CET fwang<fwang> 2.10.1-1.mga1
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> + Revision: 180554
</I>>>><i> - new version 2.10.1
</I>>>><i> fix CVE-2011-3594: UTF-8 validating incoming messages before
</I>>>><i> passing them to glib or libpurple Fix a memory leak when
</I>>>><i> admitting UTF-8 text with a non-UTF-8 primary encoding Fix
</I>>>><i> crashes and memory leaks when receiving malformed voice and
</I>>>><i> video requests
</I>>>><i> + dmorgan<dmorgan>
</I>>>><i> - New version 2.10.0
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> * mar. 29 mars 2011 14:00:00 CEST dams<dams> 2.7.11-1.mga1
</I>>>><i> [etc.]
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> How am I supposed to know what changed between 2.10.0-1.1.mga1 (the
</I>>>><i> installed version) and 2.10.1-1.mga1 (the proposed upgrade)? This
</I>>>><i> happens with many/most packages, btw, not just Pidgin.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> (would be useful, wouldn't it ? :-))
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Thanks
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Antoine.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> There is a more detailed advisory written for each update but it currently
</I>>><i> isn't shown in MageiaUpdate.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> You can subscribe to the Updates Announce mailing list
</I>><i>
</I>><i> This is surely an option for the experienced user, as are the other
</I>><i> options you show.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But what about the average (even unexperienced or new) users? You
</I>><i> would not suggest to them to join a mailing list to be able to know
</I>><i> what an update of a package will change in his system? Imagine the
</I>><i> poor guy, getting 20+ packages for update and now trying to find them
</I>><i> one by one in the mailing list. This way you educate them to stop
</I>><i> caring about changes, just do the update.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> OTOH if the updates are displayed by the update system in order by
</I>><i> their reason for update (security first, then bug fix, then version
</I>><i> upgrade (which we seldomly do)) and a click on the package reveils the
</I>><i> details, you will educate them to become curious and interested -
</I>><i> can't remember which distro I saw that, maybe suse or ubuntu.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I know that this means work, it's a reasonable suggestion nevertheless.
</I>><i>
</I>
I very much agree with you Wolfgang, as Manuel pointed out there is a
bug to do just that.
There is nothing I can personally do to make the necessary changes so I
was attempting to answer the question that was asked. That would be
something you'd have to take up on the dev mailing list!
Claire
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