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<B>andre999</B>
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<I>Thu Feb 10 19:03:15 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>Oliver Burger a écrit :
><i>
</I>><i> Hoyt Duff<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>> schrieb am 2011-02-10
</I>>><i> The initial paragraph translates as:
</I>>><i> Mandriva Linux is a free operating system.
</I>>><i> ...
</I>>><i> To me, this does not fully explain the use of "free" in the context
</I>>><i> of Mandriva/Magia. This topic (free as in beer/free as in freedom)
</I>>><i> is always one of much debate in any FOSS community. I propose:
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Mandriva Linux is an operating system based primarily on Open
</I>>><i> Source code and licensed in a way to provide users and developers
</I>>><i> with greater freedom than proprietary, restricted code. It can be
</I>>><i> modified and improved by its users and members of the community of
</I>>><i> this system. The spirit of this system is summarized in a
</I>>><i> manifesto.
</I>><i> I think that's a problem you get through the translation. I'm quite
</I>><i> sure Thomas used the french word "libre" which doesn't have the
</I>><i> distinction in "free as in beer/free as in freedom".
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I agree. No ambiguity in French. (being fluent in English & French)
Note that google translations are often extremely poor, due to misplaced
context.
><i> I'm afraid it's only in English and German where you do have that
</I>><i> double meaning. As far as I know, the french word "libre" can be
</I>><i> translated in Italian, Spanish and Portuguese in the same way without
</I>><i> getting any double meaning.
</I>
That is my understanding as well.
><i> Your workarround isn't reading that nicely. It shows that you were
</I>><i> trying to work arround something.
</I>><i> I think it's the job of the different translation teams (and we do have
</I>><i> an English team) to find the right words to describe what they really
</I>><i> mean.
</I>><i> Perhaps - in English - it would be better to say:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Mandriva Linux is a free and open source operating system. It can be
</I>><i> freely modified and improved by its users and members of the community
</I>><i> of this system.
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Much better :)
><i> After all the "Free Software Foundation" doesn't call itself
</I>><i> "Foundation for Software licensed in a way to..."
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Oliver
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