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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news</H1>
<B>Daniel Kreuter</B>
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<I>Fri Dec 3 10:32:19 CET 2010</I>
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<PRE>On 12/03/2010 10:21 AM, andre999 wrote:
><i> Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Op donderdag 02 december 2010 23:09:14 schreef Morgan Leijström:
</I>>>><i> ADDING to what i just wrote:
</I>>>>><i> A week or so old news but I saw it now...
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> <<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2011.0_specs_proposal#Swith_to_rpm5">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2011.0_specs_proposal#Swith_to_rpm5</A>>
</I>>>>><i> <<A HREF="http://ostatic.com/blog/whats-coming-in-mandriva-2011">http://ostatic.com/blog/whats-coming-in-mandriva-2011</A>>
</I>>>>><i> <<A HREF="http://proyvind.net/wordpress/?p=71">http://proyvind.net/wordpress/?p=71</A>>
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Citing proyvind from last link:
</I>>>>><i> "...I think we will end up being able to be the awesome alternative in
</I>>>>><i> the forked world, hoping for interest of other distros, actively
</I>>>>><i> inviting their participation and offering to help merge,..."
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> - i forgot to paste the best part:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> "I’m curious about what stance Mageia will take on this though, I’m
</I>>>><i> certainly hoping they will adopt our work and allow for us to help them
</I>>>><i> and contribute back and forth, if not I fear they’ll miss out on
</I>>>><i> several
</I>>>><i> changes in just perl-URPM done recently during rpm5 rewrite, and
</I>>>><i> even more
</I>>>><i> so those planned when rpm5 upgrade situtation settles.."
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> There are also other goodies in the middle link i hope we can
</I>>>>><i> coopreate
</I>>>>><i> with them on.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> well, i'm not adverse to cooperation, but RPM5 is in my opinion FAR too
</I>>><i> unstable to be used for use on our first release.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> I would say, let mandriva find the bugs first and let it give rpm5 a
</I>>><i> testrun
</I>>><i> with their users; by the time we hit our second release, we will have
</I>>><i> a for
</I>>><i> sure stable version of it.
</I>>><i>
</I>><i> I've been following RPM5 (and the associated urpm4) on cooker for a
</I>><i> while now ...
</I>><i> All 3 stories come from the person integrating rpm5 into Mandriva - he
</I>><i> was recently hired to do just that, with full support of management.
</I>><i> To me it looks like rpm5 itself won't be the big problem - rather
</I>><i> changing the urpmi tools and adapting the build system to work with it.
</I>><i> Not sure which way Mageia should go at first, but the newer versions
</I>><i> of their tools will be based on rpm5.
</I>><i> It was interesting how cooker wasn't warned of the changes - suddenly
</I>><i> many developers were left unable to do any anything, until Per fixed
</I>><i> the bugs he created. And then they learned about the planned switch.
</I>><i> A perfect example of how NOT to do things :)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> It is good that Per is open to cooperation - his experiences will be a
</I>><i> big asset when we do follow suit - which I expect we will, sooner or
</I>><i> later.
</I>><i> Maarten, have you taken a close look at it ?
</I>At the start we should use RPM4 because it is proven to be stable.
Let's wait until RPM5 will be stable in Mandriva and after that we can
move to RPM5
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