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<B>Marc Paré</B>
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<I>Mon Oct 25 05:59:25 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>Le 2010-10-24 20:19, Wayne Sallee a écrit :
><i> Michael Scherer wrote on 10/23/2010 08:52 PM:
</I>>><i> Le dimanche 24 octobre 2010 à 02:09 +0200, Tux99 a écrit :
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Come on... the effort of adding a decent description is minimal for a
</I>>>><i> packager, the effort for a normal user of making a patch is much
</I>>>><i> higher, this is not a very friendly answer towards the users...
</I>>><i> I think I demonstrated in the past that constant friendliness toward
</I>>><i> users is not one of my distinctive characteristics.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> The patch arguent is invalid, because people can also send mail, like
</I>>><i> "here is a better description of package $FOO because I didn't
</I>>><i> understood the current one and I wanted to help".
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> So while sending a email and finding the packager email can be hard for
</I>>><i> some people, I doubt that sending a email is hard for everybody.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> If writing a decent description is easy and almost effortless, and if
</I>>><i> sending a email is easy, then what is difficult into doing both ?
</I>><i> I agree that it is only logical to contribute by e-mailing the packager
</I>><i> about an improvement need in the package, but some packagers don't want
</I>><i> you e-mailing them about their package.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As a community distro, we want to try to make it comfortable and easy
</I>><i> for everyone to get involved.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Knowing that many packagers are not going to want you e-mailing them
</I>><i> about their package, reduces the number of people that will take the
</I>><i> time to e-mail them with such contribution. Of course what makes it
</I>><i> easier for one, makes it harder for another, so there needs to be
</I>><i> balance there. Sometimes our expectations are expecting too much from
</I>><i> the other who is working a lot of thankless hours to keep the distro going.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> It's all about balance and efficiency, and making it easy for people to
</I>><i> start contributing, and realizing that some jobs are more time consuming
</I>><i> than we might think.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Developing systems and protocols help keep things running efficient, and
</I>><i> moving forward.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Wayne Sallee
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
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All of this talk about descriptions make it sound like there should be
more of a formalized process whereby:
* the packager gets the package ready
*when the package is ready (in Cauldron) a message is sent out to a team
of "package description users" who make arrangements for the updated
description and translations to be included with the package
* when the updated description and package are ready they are then
processed as per usual
I think that it is pretty clear that packagers don't really want to deal
with updating description, but the users would like to have updated
descriptions. So, what if there was a group of users in charge of
updating the package descriptions/translations where needed? Would this
work?
Marc
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