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    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le lundi 04 octobre 2010 &#224; 09:26 +0200, Fr&#233;d&#233;ric CUIF a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> Le dimanche 3 octobre 2010 22:40:45, Olivier M&#233;jean a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, even if there is a good tool to have a bidirectional Gateway between ML 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and web forum i don't think we will meet efficiency with it. The best way for me 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is to have these different tools since they have different audiences, some of us 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will be on both tools but most will use just one.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I think we MUST have a good tool to do so, because it's probably the only way to allow 
</I>&gt;<i> end users to speak with developpers, ech category of people with its favorite tool. We 
</I>&gt;<i> cannot act the same way as Mandriva was doing, setting up two different tools, because 
</I>&gt;<i> it promotes the compartmentalization of the groups of users. If we want a distribution 
</I>&gt;<i> set for developpers AND en users, they must talk together.
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Excuse me ?

You should maybe read what I posted on cooker last time this issue was
brought up, I may even have already posted the link here
<A HREF="http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2010-08/msg00358.php">http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2010-08/msg00358.php</A> 

Developers ( and people who contribute in general ) are free to act as
they want, there is no place for &quot;MUST&quot; in a community of volunteers, be
it for free software or for association. While there is case where it
will not work
( <A HREF="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/10/04/101004fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/10/04/101004fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all</A> ), i think that we are no in such case.

If you still think that's not true and try to coerce developers into
reading users &quot;because they must do it&quot;, this will likely result in
obvious clash, with user being unhappy ( because of false promise and
false hope ), or a lack of growth in the contributers base ( with lose
due to the usual erosion ), and at worst, a exodus to others projects. I
do not know for others, but neither alternative seems good for me. 

See also my mail on
<A HREF="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100925/001191.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100925/001191.html</A> on how
we should try to improve things, based on what I think to be logical
arguments. 

-- 
Michael Scherer

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