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    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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<PRE>Op dinsdag 21 september 2010 20:02:02 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I can perfectly understand the reasons why that's the case when the
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; developers are full-time employees and do the work as a job, but this
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; shouldn't and mustn't be the case in a non-profit community project
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; where everyone is in it for the fun.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In this scenario devs are normally users themselves too, and even for
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; their own satisfaction it should be natural that they at least
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; occasionally check user reactions to what they develop, by spending some
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time on forums (at least reading through them).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> That's a very idealistic point of view and I'd really like to read a
</I>&gt;<i> developper's opinion on that. Because IIRC it was really a free
</I>&gt;<i> developper who told me that developpers do not need users because they
</I>&gt;<i> are developping for their own needs in the first place (I reasoned
</I>&gt;<i> that users and developpers are needing each other as 2 parts in a
</I>&gt;<i> shared system). And it was another who told me that he'd rather spend
</I>&gt;<i> his time working on a problem than reading all that user stuff in the
</I>&gt;<i> forums. No employees!
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> But I wish you were right.
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I would say, that is correct.

as a developer, i do not need users (some devs do), i scratch my own back. and 
i don't like reading user comments either, but otoh, i am willing to 
compromise a bit to give my program a broader audience, and that's why a bug 
tracker is a good idea. also for mentioning improvements.

and also having some contacts with leaders of community sites, sometimes they 
can summarize stuff for you.
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