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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mageia-dev-request@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-dev-request@mageia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div id=":1jh">Hmm, have you missed that there will be no Cinnamon in Mageia repos?<br>
Part of packagers "job" is to keep eye on the dev ml.</div></blockquote></div><br>Maybe I'll stay on for another day or so. I've been using Mageia/Mandriva for years,<br>and so I'll keep it on my disk for another two or three days.<br>
<br>Let me tell you about my day. I go to work, I work for 12 hours a day. I come<br>home. On a good day, I have maybe an hour or two to work on my hobby. <br>I might have a few hours to work on weekends. But I have a *job* and *kids*.<br>
<br>I find coding relaxing. I find packaging relaxing and educational. I've actually<br>learned a lot about rpm. I've also learned a lot about how cinnamon works.<br><br>But I have a *job*. Here I'm a volunteer. I got cinnamon working for my own <br>
amusement. if I have to spend lots of time keeping track of e-mail discussions, <br>then I'm just not going to have the time to do anything "real." I find coding *fun*.<br>I find office politics and taking orders *not fun*.<br>
<br>And I've been quiet, because I'm a newbie. I keep my mouth shut, and watch<br>what's going on before I say anything. If I feel like I fit in, I stay. If not, I don't.<br><br>I have a dozen or so packages in the queue. I've been working with the Fedora <br>
to get a python to rpm conversion script working, and I have about a dozen<br>python packages that are ready to be uploaded. I'm interested in creating a first<br>rate platform for astronomy. I've got ds9 working. I've packaged glamor, and I've<br>
gotten an open source ati driver working for Radeonsi. I want to start<br>packaging heavy duty astrophysics code on Mageia.<br><br>If you find this useful. Then take it. If not, I'll find somewhere else. Say thank you<br>
and smile at me, and I'm a sucker, and I'll keep doing it.<br><br>But remember I have a *job*. If this starts feeling like *work* then there's no <br>reason for me to be here. I'll put up with some politics if it means getting something <br>
useful done in the end, and I'll spend a lot of time if I learn something, but my<br>time is precious, and I could have been spending the last hour trying to get some<br>more themes packaged rather than writing useless e-mail (and I hate e-mail,<br>
I get enough of this non-sense at work).<br><br>I've been using Mageia/Mandriva for years, so I'll wait a few days before wiping <br>my disk to see how people react. I'll keep packaging and debugging stuff. I<br>
*will* work on cinnamon, because I think it's a cool desktop. There is one major<br>bug, that I'd like to help fix. You can't tell me to stop working on cinnamon.<br><br>You can keep cinnamon out of the distribution, but that's up to you.....<br>
<br>Also, in case someone wants to have a discussion rather than *ordering* me <br>to do something.... <br><br>I really don't think that cinnamon is ready for Mageia 3. There are some pretty<br>major bugs in it, and it's not ready for prime time. It would be useful to keep it<br>
in the testing section, and then target it for Mageia 4. I do think it would be a<br>good idea to at least start looking at alternatives to Gnome 3 since they are <br>self-destructing, and I've been *extremely* impressed by cinnamon (minus two<br>
annoying bugs which I'm trying to fix).<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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