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    <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed;
      font-size: 12px;" lang="x-unicode">On 14.11.2011 14:53, Buchan
      Milne wrote:
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      <blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
          <blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">   ( and
            given the discussion
            <br>
            <br>
            on ml, it should be soon )
            <br>
          </blockquote>
          When I ask the developers, they don't know if qemu will
          include the
          <br>
          patch at all and when (now or after one year) and they
          suggested to do
          <br>
          the openSUSE way (today the most recommended and full featured
          Linux
          <br>
          distro for GNS3).
          <br>
        </blockquote>
        [...]
        <br>
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">OK. So if
          gns3 can't be fixed for the stable - than should be removed
          <br>
          from the repos (for ISOs is to late).
          <br>
          <br>
          If we don't provide qemu patch, then gns3 should be removed
          from
          <br>
          Cauldron as well.
          <br>
          <br>
          I believe removing GNS3 is better than keeping it broken and..
          irritate
          <br>
          people (I don't count the opinion of our quality). Later some
          3rd party
          <br>
          repos can provide GNS3 and its dependencies.
          <br>
        </blockquote>
        You seem to imply that the only use of GNS3 is with this qemu
        patch.
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      It's possible to simulate and play without qemu.
      (btw newer alpha release version supports in the same way
      VirtualBox)<br>
      <br>
      It should be "Suggested" by GNS3, but then what is the idea of
      suggesting qemu that isn't working at all? I simply don't know why
      to distribute a program that provides support in GUI for something
      that's not working.
      <br>
      <br>
      People can try to waste their time and configure qemuwrapper with
      our qemu... it's just a matter of time for a bugrequest on our
      bugzilla.
      <br>
      <br>
      In my opinion if we provide an application with so exposed
      (visible) support for working with qemu and we don't provide qemu
      itself then our quality of packages get lower.
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">But I used
        GNS3 with just dynamips, and this issue of GNS3 not being usable
        at
        <br>
        all due to missing dynamips can really be solved quite quickly
        just by
        <br>
        shipping dynamips to updates.
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      Yes.
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">But, it looks
        like someone blindly imported gns3 and dynagen from Mandriva
        <br>
        without even understanding the use of these tools:
        <br>
        <br>
        $ rpm -q --suggests dynagen
        <br>
        dynamips&gt;= 0.2.8
        <br>
        xterm
        <br>
        <br>
        (dynamips isn't explicitly required to be installed on the host
        with gns3 or
        <br>
        dynagen, as the hypervisor can be run on a different host than
        dynagen/GNS3).
        <br>
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      In theory yes.
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Regards,
        <br>
        Buchan
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
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