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<H1>[Mageia-dev] [council] *ping* Media query: secure boot support</H1>
<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 29/01/13 11:50 did gyre and gimble:
><i> Colin Guthrie skrev 29.1.2013 11:30:
</I>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 29/01/13 09:11 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>>><i> Olav Vitters skrev 29.1.2013 10:43:
</I>>>>><i> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 01:43:25PM +0100, Marja van Waes wrote:
</I>>>>>>><i> From: Sam Varghese<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sam at gnubies.com</A>>
</I>>>>><i> [..]
</I>>>>>>><i> I would like to know what Mageia plans to do about secure boot - when
</I>>>>>>><i> you will have a release that supports booting on hardware on which
</I>>>>>>><i> this
</I>>>>>>><i> feature is enabled.
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> I'm wondering as well. I've been thinking to upgrade my system
</I>>>>><i> somewhere
</I>>>>><i> this year. This means secure boot, UEFI, etc. It would be nice if
</I>>>>><i> Mageia
</I>>>>><i> supports that nicely.
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Supporting (U)EFI does not require SecureBoot support...
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> we wont support SecureBoot for Mga3, and there is no rush considering
</I>>>><i> a lot of changes is still happening on several fronts...
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> I will try to see if I can fix the UEFI part for ~beta3, but no promises
</I>>>><i> yet....
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> And for people thinking of Windows 8 dual boot... Win8 does not
</I>>>><i> _require_ SecureBoot either... (only the overprized RT does)
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> And personally, I dont think we should ever bother with the SecureBoot
</I>>>><i> crap as its flawed in so many ways...
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> On a semi-related note, it would be nice to package gummiboot although I
</I>>><i> have no h/w to test it on.
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yep, that is one of the things I'm looking at...
</I>
Cool :)
>><i> For mga4 it might make sense to integrate it (assuming it's still a good
</I>>><i> solution) properly into our tools.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Personally, I'm going to avoid grub2. It seems insane to me to implement
</I>>><i> all kinds of exotic filesystem supoort and even md stuff in a
</I>>><i> bootloader...
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Well, I think for next 3.8 kernel build I think I will make ahci, ext4
</I>><i> and btrfs builtin so you can boot without initrd on new hw, and if you
</I>><i> install the kernel in correct place on the "efi" partition, you can
</I>><i> boot the kernel directly without bootloader... :)
</I>
Yup, with newer systemds (not yet in mga - think it's probably best to
wait for mga4, but I could backport those bits if there is sufficient
interest), if you have an EFI partition and you have an empty /boot
folder with no other /boot mounts defined, it'll automatically mount the
efi partition there.
This is where I think our tools would need updating to realise this was
the case and use the correct vendor subdir for kernel (and optional
initrd) installation. Will likely take a bit of fiddling to get right,
hence why I think this is really an mga4 thing for the most part.
Col
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