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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Fail2Ban vs Blockhosts vs DenyHosts vs iptable throttle for SSH</H1>
<B>Claire Robinson</B>
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<I>Tue Feb 19 17:43:56 CET 2013</I>
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<PRE>On 19/02/13 12:51, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">finid at linuxbsdos.com</A> wrote:
><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On 2013-02-19 11:45, Robert Fox wrote:
</I>>><i> On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 12:35 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
</I>>>><i> Le 19/02/2013 12:20, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">finid at linuxbsdos.com</A> a écrit :
</I>>>><i> > If that's how you feel about having a program like DenyHosts
</I>>>><i> running by
</I>>>><i> > default, do you feel the same way about having a firewall running and
</I>>>><i> > configured out of the box.
</I>>>><i> >
</I>>>><i> > Is a firewall a sysadmin's or packager's choice?
</I>>>><i> A sysadmin choice. Pushing always more stuff 'by default' doesn't help
</I>>>><i> users to make educated choices.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> On one hand I agree, on the other hand - we want a distribution which
</I>>><i> simply works and common choices are made (like which firewall) from the
</I>>><i> distro side - a good enough Sysadmin can then change to his/her liking
</I>>><i> afterwards. This is more or less a distro "philosophy" question, but
</I>>><i> look why "Mint" has become so popular - because many choices are made
</I>>><i> upfront for the user - yet the flexibility is in the system (and enough
</I>>><i> packages) for an advanced user to change them!
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> As long as the default settings are documented upfront - I see no issue
</I>>><i> in making such a decision on behalf of the "average" user - and making a
</I>>><i> more security robust distribution.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> BTW, there is no Mageia package for BlockHosts - but fail2ban and
</I>>><i> DenyHosts there are packages . . .
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> This is the point that many distro devs don't seem to understand. People
</I>><i> want a system that just works. Have you observed that Macs are very
</I>><i> popular with geeks, that is, the guys who can mess with a system in and
</I>><i> out. Why?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> How did Ubuntu and Mint become so popular? That's right, they just work.
</I>><i> All the sane options have been pre-selected.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I once had a discussion with a dev who did not want to have the updates
</I>><i> manager's icon in the systray because he did not want to clutter that
</I>><i> part of the panel.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> --
</I>><i> finid
</I>><i>
</I>
With this in mind could somebody mind looking at bugs 8985, 8986, 8987
and possibly also 9107.
<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8985">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8985</A>
<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8986">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8986</A>
<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8987">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8987</A>
<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9107">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9107</A>
T.I.A.
Claire
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