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<B>David Walser</B>
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<I>Thu Feb 7 16:35:20 CET 2013</I>
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<PRE>--- On Thu, 2/7/13, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote:
><i> From: Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>>
</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl
</I>><i> To: "Mageia development mailing-list" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>>
</I>><i> Cc: "David Walser" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>>
</I>><i> Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 4:56 AM
</I>><i> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at
</I>><i> 06/02/13 18:28 did gyre and gimble:
</I>><i> > Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at ...</A>> writes:
</I>><i> >> Oh, for the avoidance of doubt, I don't think there
</I>><i> is any argument that
</I>><i> >> would suggest the removal from the repositories or
</I>><i> obsoletion of rsyslog
</I>><i> >> or syslog-ng etc.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > I agree, and that's consistent with what you've said in
</I>><i> the past.  I thought
</I>><i> > it was odd that the idea of obsoleting them came up
</I>><i> yesterday in the packager
</I>><i> > meeting, but it did.  The main reason was wanting
</I>><i> to know if rsyslog should
</I>><i> > still be on the DVD, in case of users using it to
</I>><i> upgrade from Mageia 2.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > It may be the case that not upgrading that particular
</I>><i> package during the DVD
</I>><i> > upgrade won't *break* anything and it can just be
</I>><i> upgraded after the system
</I>><i> > is booted and urpmi sources are added, in which case it
</I>><i> doesn't *need* to be
</I>><i> > on the DVD.  Otherwise, we should make sure it's
</I>><i> on there.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> What I guess we could to to avoid putting rsyslog on the
</I>><i> physical media
</I>><i> would be to put a versioned conflicts in the main systemd
</I>><i> package with
</I>><i> rsyslog and syslog-ng. Thus the old packages should be
</I>><i> removed when
</I>><i> upgrading (AIUI).
</I>
I don't agree with unexpectedly forcibly removing it from people's systems.
Do we even know if it hurts anything to leave the mga2 package installed for a few minutes?
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