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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] rehashing the faac issue</H1>
    <B>Olivier Blin</B> 
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<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; writes:

&gt;<i> 2012/10/30 Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; writes:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There has been a wide consensus for the solution to put it into
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tainted as has been said in this thread as well.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The consensus was maybe not so clear then.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Maybe not so clear for those whose opinion differs from the consensus,
</I>&gt;<i> understandable. I did not write about a consensus as first one, it has
</I>&gt;<i> been written repeatedly by others.
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My opinion does not differ from the &quot;consensus&quot;:
- I don't have a strong opinion on this
- I just did not see a clear consensus after carefully re-reading all
  the thread (from the beginning of the month) yesterday

&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry if it is too offending for one or the other if I call this
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> procedure &quot;ridiculous&quot;.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Where do you see a procedure here? :-)
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Offer one if you think that's needed.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Ah, in case you have missed all those mails in the devel list:
</I>&gt;<i> 1. The issue was brought to the attention of the people, including the
</I>&gt;<i> developers.
</I>&gt;<i> 2. The issue has been discussed at length including mantra-like repetitions.
</I>&gt;<i> 3. Several people suggested the same solution (we did not start a poll
</I>&gt;<i> but to me it looked like a large part of the participants of the
</I>&gt;<i> discussion). If I am wrong here then all others who saw it like me are
</I>&gt;<i> wrong as well
</I>&gt;<i> 4. All it needed now was action according to that consensus.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> This is what I call a procedure and how issues have been treated many
</I>&gt;<i> times. May be your definition is different.
</I>
What I call a procedure is a documented way of doing things before we
actually do them :-)

&gt;<i> After the discussion reached this state everybody waited for action,
</I>&gt;<i> which may have ver well have been delayed because of other more
</I>&gt;<i> important work. That was the subject/contents of the opening mail and
</I>&gt;<i> first answers of this thread. Until somebody started to open the
</I>&gt;<i> discussion again.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Another option would have been to bring the issue to the council after
</I>&gt;<i> the first discussion ended but I haven't yet read any mail about such
</I>&gt;<i> a move during the months since then.
</I>&gt;<i> Is that what you were waiting for?
</I>
If things don't move on, yes, we should bring this to the council.

&gt;&gt;<i> It could be up to the council or board to chose the lesser evil between:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - picking tainted for non-free + tainted packages like faac, and thus
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   forbid mirroring tainted packages that are only free-software
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   (but maybe that's the hypothetical 'selective mirror admin' from Guillaume)
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> yes, you've been calling those existing mirror maintainers
</I>&gt;<i> &quot;hypothetical&quot; before. Very good argument. If I don't like something I
</I>&gt;<i> just pretend it isn't there.
</I>
This looks like a misunderstanding, again.
The hypothetical selective mirror admin was about an admin selectively
picking sub-trees (free, non-free) of PLF.
Do you know of any admin doing this?

-- 
Olivier Blin - blino
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