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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] NetworkManager vs initscripts</H1>
    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 28/11/12 13:33 did gyre and gimble:
&gt;<i> On 11/28/2012 08:23 AM, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday 28. November 2012 14.17, Frank Griffin wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> NM doesn't need ifcfg files
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But udev or some other proccess does. My point was to add the line to
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the ifcfg files in order to prevent the other proccesses from fighting
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with NM for controll over the network interfaces, when the interface
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is beeing setup with NM.
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</I>&gt;<i> It's kind of backwards.  NM expects to be in control of everything by
</I>&gt;<i> default rather than to coexist with initscripts.  If it was, there'd be
</I>&gt;<i> no ifcfg files.  If it sees an ifcfg file and it contains
</I>&gt;<i> NM_CONTROLLED=NO, then it leaves the interface alone.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> At the time udev runs, it doesn't have any way to know that an interface
</I>&gt;<i> is controlled by NM unless someone has created an ifcfg file with
</I>&gt;<i> NM_CONTROLLED=YES.  With no file there, creating a file containing YES
</I>&gt;<i> would be useless because with no file there at all, NM will grab the
</I>&gt;<i> interface anyway.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> It's sort of a catch-22.  udev is assuming that ifplugd is the default
</I>&gt;<i> because on MGA3 that is true.  NM is assuming that *it* is the default
</I>&gt;<i> because that's how it was designed.
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I thought the default had flipped to being &quot;if the NM_CONTROLLED does
not exist, then assume it's true&quot; before mga2 came out.

I'm maybe mis-remembering tho'. Blino can you correct me??

Col

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