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<H1>[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-1.mga3</H1>
<B>D.Morgan</B>
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<I>Tue May 29 19:30:33 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Jani Välimaa <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
><i> On 29.05.2012 18:54, Colin Guthrie wrote:
</I>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Jani Välimaa at 29/05/12 16:13 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>>><i> On 29.05.2012 17:38, Sander Lepik wrote:
</I>>>>><i> 29.05.2012 17:14, wally kirjutas:
</I>>>>>><i> Name        : task-obsolete                Relocations: (not relocatable)
</I>>>>>><i> Version     : 3                                 Vendor: Mageia.Org
</I>>>>>><i> Release     : 1.mga3                        Build Date: Tue May 29
</I>>>>>><i> 15:59:18 2012
</I>>>>>><i> [...]
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> wally <wally> 3-1.mga3:
</I>>>>>><i> + Revision: 249259
</I>>>>>><i> - obsolete old libxfce4menu pkgs
</I>>>>><i> Hmm, since when do we obsolete libs like this?
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Since task-obsolete was introduced. It's a way to get rid of old,
</I>>>><i> obsoleted and unused pkgs which are also removed from SVN (moved to
</I>>>><i> /packages/obsolete/).
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> I wasn't aware we ever did this and I can't think of a good reason to do
</I>>><i> so either so I would prefer this change was reverted (and any other old
</I>>><i> libs in there similarly removed from obsoletion).
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> There is a difference between no longer shipping something and no longer
</I>>><i> supporting it being installed. If I've compiled my own software against
</I>>><i> any given library I do not want something to remove it automatically and
</I>>><i> break my build. That's the whole point in having library packaging the
</I>>><i> way we do - to allow them to live on mostly forever on an installed
</I>>><i> system. If we no longer support something being installed then using
</I>>><i> task-obsoletes seems wise.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I guess we need another way to drop pkgs easily from our mirrors then.
</I>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Users are then responsible for removing old library packages they no
</I>>><i> longer want from their system using either the urpme --auto-orphans or
</I>>><i> urpmq --not-available.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Maybe I've misunderstood the intention here, and if so feel free to
</I>>><i> correct me!
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> My primary motives was to drop pkgs from our repos, but in this case
</I>><i> there's no need to have libxfce4menu installed in any system as it was
</I>><i> abandoned upstream over 1.5 years ago and there's no pkgs needing it in
</I>><i> our repos (mga1, mga2 or mga3).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Can't say anything about other cases, though.
</I>
packages are automatically removed from the repo ( or by pterjan i
don't recall ) so no need and we never obsolete libs.
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