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<H1>[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-1.mga3</H1>
<B>Jani Välimaa</B>
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<I>Tue May 29 18:29:28 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On 29.05.2012 18:54, Colin Guthrie wrote:
><i> 'Twas brillig, and Jani Välimaa at 29/05/12 16:13 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>><i> On 29.05.2012 17:38, Sander Lepik wrote:
</I>>>><i> 29.05.2012 17:14, wally kirjutas:
</I>>>>><i> Name : task-obsolete Relocations: (not relocatable)
</I>>>>><i> Version : 3 Vendor: Mageia.Org
</I>>>>><i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Tue May 29
</I>>>>><i> 15:59:18 2012
</I>>>>><i> [...]
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> wally <wally> 3-1.mga3:
</I>>>>><i> + Revision: 249259
</I>>>>><i> - obsolete old libxfce4menu pkgs
</I>>>><i> Hmm, since when do we obsolete libs like this?
</I>>>><i>
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</I>>><i> Since task-obsolete was introduced. It's a way to get rid of old,
</I>>><i> obsoleted and unused pkgs which are also removed from SVN (moved to
</I>>><i> /packages/obsolete/).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I wasn't aware we ever did this and I can't think of a good reason to do
</I>><i> so either so I would prefer this change was reverted (and any other old
</I>><i> libs in there similarly removed from obsoletion).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> There is a difference between no longer shipping something and no longer
</I>><i> supporting it being installed. If I've compiled my own software against
</I>><i> any given library I do not want something to remove it automatically and
</I>><i> break my build. That's the whole point in having library packaging the
</I>><i> way we do - to allow them to live on mostly forever on an installed
</I>><i> system. If we no longer support something being installed then using
</I>><i> task-obsoletes seems wise.
</I>
I guess we need another way to drop pkgs easily from our mirrors then.
><i>
</I>><i> Users are then responsible for removing old library packages they no
</I>><i> longer want from their system using either the urpme --auto-orphans or
</I>><i> urpmq --not-available.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Maybe I've misunderstood the intention here, and if so feel free to
</I>><i> correct me!
</I>><i>
</I>
My primary motives was to drop pkgs from our repos, but in this case
there's no need to have libxfce4menu installed in any system as it was
abandoned upstream over 1.5 years ago and there's no pkgs needing it in
our repos (mga1, mga2 or mga3).
Can't say anything about other cases, though.
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