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    <B>Claire REVILLET</B> 
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<PRE>Hi,

Looking at this bug : <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5732">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5732</A>
i tried to install Scilab under cauldron 64 : it needs 367 packages !!!

Scilab does not need apache nor sql. And more than that : it does not 
need sending or receiving emails, so why should javamail be installed ?

I know that packaging java is special, but working like that brings just 
more conflict issues. And that also means that on a small computer,  we 
can't have any java software.

I know it's too late for mga2, but can't we thing about that before mg3 
release, please ?

Grenoya


Here is the list of packages pulled :

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   aether                         1.11         4.mga2        noarch
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   antlr-tool                     2.7.7        18.mga1       noarch
   aopalliance                    1.0          1.mga2        noarch
   apache-commons-attributes      2.2          1.mga2        noarch
   apache-commons-beanutils       1.8.3        6.mga2        noarch
   apache-commons-cli             1.2          5.mga1        noarch
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   maven-surefire-provider-junit  2.10         4.mga2        noarch
   maven-surefire-report-plugin   2.10         4.mga2        noarch
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   mojo-parent                    28           4.mga1        noarch
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   msv-msv                        2009.1       9.mga1        noarch
   msv-xsdlib                     2009.1       9.mga1        noarch
   mx4j                           3.0.1        5.mga2        noarch
   myfaces-core                   1.1.5        1.mga2        noarch
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   nanoxml                        2.2.3        1.mga2        noarch
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   nekohtml                       1.9.14       3.mga2        noarch
   netbeans-cvsclient             7.0.1        3.mga2        noarch
   netcdf-java                    4.2.21       1.mga2        noarch
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   plexus-interpolation           1.15         1.mga2        noarch
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   plexus-resources               1.0          0.5.a7.2.mga2 noarch
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   plexus-velocity                1.1.8        10.mga2       noarch
   pmd                            4.2.5        2.mga2        noarch
   protobuf-java                  2.4.1        1.mga2        x86_64
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   quartz16                       1.6.6        1.mga2        noarch
   regexp                         1.5          0.0.6.mga2    noarch
   relaxngDatatype                1.0          6.4.mga1      noarch
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   saxon                          6.5.5        2.mga2        x86_64
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   saxpath                        1.0          2.mga1        noarch
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   servletapi4                    4.1.40       2.mga2        noarch
   sisu                           2.1.1        4.mga1        noarch
   slf4j                          1.6.1        3.mga1        noarch
   sonatype-oss-parent            6            4.mga1        noarch
   spice-parent                   15           5.mga1        noarch
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   spring2-beans                  2.5.6        2.mga2        noarch
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   spring2-context-support        2.5.6        2.mga2        noarch
   spring2-core                   2.5.6        2.mga2        noarch
   spring2-jdbc                   2.5.6        2.mga2        noarch
   spring2-tx                     2.5.6        2.mga2        noarch
   spring2-web                    2.5.6        2.mga2        noarch
   spring2-webmvc                 2.5.6        2.mga2        noarch
   stax2-api                      3.1.1        1.mga2        noarch
   struts12                       1.2.9        11.mga2       noarch
   swig                           2.0.4        2.mga2        x86_64
   tanukiwrapper                  3.2.3        1.mga2        x86_64
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   tiles                          2.2.2        1.mga2        noarch
   tiles-master                   3            1.mga2        noarch
   tk                             8.5.11       1.mga2        x86_64
   tomcat5-jsp-2.0-api            5.5.31       6.mga2        noarch
   tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api        5.5.31       6.mga2        noarch
   tomcat6-jsp-2.1-api            6.0.35       4.mga2        noarch
   tomcat6-servlet-2.5-api        6.0.35       4.mga2        noarch
   vafer-dependency               0.4          1.mga2        noarch
   velocity                       1.6.4        1.mga1        noarch
   velocity-tools                 2.0          3.mga2        noarch
   visad                          2010.08.09   1.mga2        noarch
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   woodstox-core                  4.1.2        3.mga2        noarch
   ws-jaxme                       0.5.2        1.0.6.mga1    noarch
   wsdl4j                         1.6.2        3.mga1        noarch
   x11-font-bitstream-type1       1.0.3        1.mga1        noarch
   x11-font-type1                 1.0.0        8.mga1        noarch
   x11-font-xfree86-type1         1.0.4        1.mga1        noarch
   xapool                         1.5.0        1.mga2        noarch
   xbean                          3.7          9.mga2        noarch
   xml-commons-apis12             1.2.04       6.mga1        noarch
   xmlbeans                       2.4.0        1.mga2        noarch
   xmldb-api                      0.1          0.1.20011111&gt; noarch
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   xom                            1.2.1        1.mga2        noarch
   xpp2                           2.1.10       6.1.7.mga1    x86_64
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   xstream                        1.3.1        4.mga1        noarch
   yecht                          0.0.2        2.mga2        noarch

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