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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java</H1>
    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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    <I>Fri Mar 30 17:51:35 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>Am 30.03.2012 17:39, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 16:00:22 schreef nicolas vigier:
</I>&gt;<i> [...]
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think an empty package is not a good idea, it would be better to
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obsolete it in task-obsolete :
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   - it's more clear that the package is obsoleted and is not a regular
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     update. Users installing an empty package as update would only see that
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     it is removed but not updated when it's already removed.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   - package is really removed and no longer listed as installed in rpm
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     database
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   - it's easy to add task-obsolete in urpmi skip.list for people who
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     don't want unmaintained packages to be automatically removed
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> wrt to task-obsolete, do the users get notified?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> maybe a README.urpmi listing all the packages and reasons would be an option
</I>&gt;<i> to get notified?
</I>And how do you decide, when to put which warning in it?
If you leave a warnign in it for too long, the user will get notified 
again and again and again on each update of task-obsolete.
If you change the warnings every release of task-obsolte a user not 
updating frequently will miss some.

But in this case, why not replacing the java sun packages by an empty 
package obsoleting the whole java sun stack &lt;= our last package and 
showing the information via README.urpmi file and obsoleting that 
package in say two months so it will be completely gone?

Oliver
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