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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java</H1>
    <B>Christian Lohmaier</B> 
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<PRE>Hi Guillaume,

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Guillaume Rousse
&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
&gt;<i> Le 30/03/2012 15:04, Christian Lohmaier a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well - that is what he said:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Don't push security updates to users by replacing package A by package
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> B.&quot;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or: &quot;I don't care that other people will continue using software with
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> security flaws, since I know what I am doing.&quot;
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> That is pure over-interpretation of my argumentation. I could be as well
</I>&gt;<i> irrespective of your point of view by replying &quot;you lie&quot;.
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I think that paraphrasing matched what you were writing prettly closely.

But let's use a few quotes then:
&quot;[...] don't treat uses as blatant idiots.
If I want to keep a proprietary JRE [...] that is my choice, not yours.&quot;

&quot;I think I'm best placed than anyone else to evaluate the exact risk
I'm facing on the machines I'm running [...]. The decision [...]
belongs to me. You [Mageia] are not a system administrator [...], you
are a technical solution provider. You're clearly confusing the roles
here.&quot;

If that is not reading: Don't push the security updates to the users,
let the user take care of that manually, then what else?

Sure, call me lying, but then I call you schizophrenic.

ciao
Christian
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