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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java</H1>
    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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<PRE>On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

&gt;<i> 2012/3/30 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 30 March 2012 10:06, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We can do like RH&amp; &#160;Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; doesn't enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install (&amp; &#160;update)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; it manually from sun.com
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Why should we manage this case differently from other similar situations ?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; That's not the first time we remove something from the distribution, because
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; it is not supported anymore usually, and has known available
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; vulnerabilities.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; situations&quot;.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; no better package)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I think we should obsolete sun-java in task-obsolete, and add it to
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; release notes. Then people who want to remove unsupported packages can
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; install task-obsolete.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Do all average users know about task-obsolete (I did not, never needed
</I>&gt;<i> it) ? You can't use what you don't know about and what has not been
</I>&gt;<i> documented in userland. Except you want to narrow down the target
</I>&gt;<i> group for Mageia to people with technical knowledge and interest.
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It can be added to the release notes.

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