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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues</H1>
    <B>David Walser</B> 
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    <I>Wed Mar 28 20:40:49 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>John Balcaen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at ...</A>&gt; writes:
&gt;<i> Le 28 mars 2012 12:40, &quot;David Walser&quot;
</I>&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit&#160;:
&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least some of the reason all kinds of extra
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stuff gets pulled in is because Default-kde4-config and
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-kde4-config-common both have added dependencies on plasma applets
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (plasma-applet-icontasks and plasma-applet-battery, respectively), which
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; certainly seems wrong. &#160;
</I>&gt;<i> Nop, default config use iconstasks so we'll end up with a broken panel if
</I>&gt;<i> it was not pulled.
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Then this is definitely wrong.  Those config packages are required even when
you don't have KDE itself installed, so there's no panel to be broken.  Those
requires should be elsewhere.

&gt;<i> I don't know if this accounts for all of the extra stuff
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; getting pulled in. &#160;If I knew for sure, I'd file a bug.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also, as I alluded to, KDE installed with task-kde4-minimal is a bit broken.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Some issues include no showdesktop widget being installed, and as soon
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as you log in, an error message:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Warning: Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to open session: Failed to
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Not sure if this is related, but when you don't have a sound device,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Kmix in the system tray has a missing icon.
</I>&gt;<i> Under kde session ? Could you add a screenshot ?
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Yes, in a KDE session.

&gt;<i> &gt; Finally, even on a workstation installation with full KDE, there is some
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; error message that briefly displays at the top of the screen after you
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; log in, but not long enough to read it. &#160;It looks like something about
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; power management.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> You should add somewhere thoses logs (bugzilla).
</I>
That's the thing, the message doesn't stay long enough to read it, and I
don't see anything about it in .xsession-errors.

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