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<H1>[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog</H1>
<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<I>Wed Mar 14 22:24:37 CET 2012</I>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 14/03/12 16:23 did gyre and gimble:
><i> On 14 March 2012 16:31, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote:
</I>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 14/03/12 15:23 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>>><i> If you fear a server crash, you can use git svn and you've a full compact
</I>>>><i> local backup
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> As a side note, it would be good to use git more. I think during the
</I>>><i> mga3 timeframe I'll try and look at the git infrastructure with a view
</I>>><i> to moving the various soft/ stuff over to git.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> The things is, some translators are used to svn, so switching to git
</I>><i> may not be easy for them.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> For dev, it can helps things, keeping unfinished stuff into branches
</I>><i> rather than in patch files that can got lost/forgoten
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> Packages I won't even begin to think about (it's too much of a pain)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On contrary, I think this one would be easier since mgarepo is
</I>><i> supposed to hide svn though some packagers know they can
</I>><i> use svn directly.
</I>
Yeah this is true. I guess that needs to be addressed properly. I wasn't
involved with our transiflex roll out (nor do I know much about i18n
generally. I should really learn some day.
>><i> but it would be good to have more official and better exposed git
</I>>><i> repositories
</I>><i>
</I>><i> other advantages are :
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - less used space on the server (disk usage exploded on the
</I>><i> server when switching from CVS to SVN) ;
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - also quite a lot less files on the server too (so less jobs for
</I>><i> saving & fscking) since cvs used on file per checked file whereas
</I>><i> svn (as configured in mdv) is using one file per transaction in
</I>><i> big directories
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - full history is backuped locally at relatively little space cost
</I>><i> (providing git gc is run regularly at least when using git-svn)
</I>><i> for quite a lot project, disk usage is actually smaller than svn
</I>><i> that keep a copy of everything in .svn, thus doubling disk usage
</I>><i> whereas git compressed history can be smaller (not for the full
</I>><i> drakx history for the last 11+years though :-) )
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - quite a lot operations are faster (even if SVN was already an
</I>><i> improvement over SVN regarding this) due to local requesting
</I>><i> instead of network requests (eg: log, blame, ...)
</I>
Sold! (but then I was already sold anyway :))
>><i> where appropriate, automatic patch generation for some
</I>>><i> packages (for example I use one for the initscripts package and I need
</I>>><i> to be careful to add in patches from others to the "official" git
</I>>><i> repository for it).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> At least this one should eventually die, shouldn't it :-) ?
</I>
For various values of "eventually" :p
This is a valid point in the case of initscripts but several scripts
will likely live on for a while - tho' maybe they'll be migrated to
other, more specific-to-use-case packages (e.g. the networking scripts
and the storage related scripts might eventually be split up... maybe
not much need for that tho' - who knows). Certainly I would see our
variations from the upstream fedora versions reducing over time. A lot
of our changes seem to be quite pointless already - i.e. no real gain
from any practical perspective. I guess this variation will reduce as
time goes by)
But yeah, even if this one dies, it would be good to allow mgarepo to
automatically checkout/clone the source along with the pagkage for easy
development and patch regeneration etc. One day it might be super easy,
but no real rush I guess.
Col
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