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    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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<PRE>Op maandag 12 maart 2012 10:56:57 schreef Michael Scherer:
&gt;<i> Le lundi 12 mars 2012 &#224; 08:29 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to get back on topic: perhaps it's not unreasonable to allow a timelimit
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exception, like for instance 3 or 4 days where &quot;i forgot it was freeze or
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; didn't make it in time AND it's not likely to mess everything up&quot; kind of
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; reason...
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> That was already discussed when we discussed the release cycle. And
</I>&gt;<i> basically, that would just &quot;let's reduce the freeze by 3/4 days in a
</I>&gt;<i> more inefficient way&quot;. You just move the bickering at the 3/4 days limit
</I>&gt;<i> ( &quot;but it could have bene if I had submitted yesterday&quot; ) instead of the
</I>&gt;<i> beggining of the freeze, and you take time to the people who are
</I>&gt;<i> submitting, since they get message, have to warn packager about &quot;it
</I>&gt;<i> doesn't work&quot; ( as it happened several time last freeze period ).
</I>[...]
&gt;<i> So next time, maybe we should have a pure good faith based system,
</I>[...]
&gt;<i> - everybody can do as he see fit
</I>
I'll take this suggestion as a cynic suggestions and ignore it for now

[...]
&gt;<i> Patch welcome, but frankly, I think there is a point where the duty of
</I>&gt;<i> being informed must be on the packagers. It is rather depressing to
</I>&gt;<i> realize that people do not read the announce you send ( and what is more
</I>&gt;<i> depressing is the number of those that don't once you start to dig out
</I>&gt;<i> ).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> If some people missed the announce, maybe we should ask them &quot;where do
</I>&gt;<i> you read information about the project and where don't you read&quot;, so we
</I>&gt;<i> can identify the communication channel that should be used and those
</I>&gt;<i> that shouldn't, as i am not sure that hammering more is the solution.
</I>
I do understand both your pov, and i do remember that discussion.

IMHO: good strict policies are good, and exceptions are exceptions.

but we should also try to prevent irritation if it's possible... we're short 
on contributors and I don't like to decrease motivation... I guess that makes 
me more lax than others.
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