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    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 &#224; 01:59 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> On 8 March 2012 11:31, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Version freeze is now active. As a reminder please have a look here
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html</A>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for more details.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> For years, the freeze never impacted our own tools since  unless
</I>&gt;<i> packages we are not upstream, we prefer to release than patch
</I>&gt;<i> (which also helps get latest translations).
</I>&gt;<i> Now, drakx* stuff got blocked.
</I>
For years, the whole stack have been developped in the last minute. 

&gt;<i> So I would request we relax the freeze for our own stuff.
</I>&gt;<i> else It'll made pushing fixes quite slow &amp; painfull.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> In worst case, instead of pushing the stack in ~30mns, it may
</I>&gt;<i> takes days.
</I>&gt;<i> eg if I fix sg in urpmi, I've to wait for someone to actually push urpmi
</I>&gt;<i> before asking to push drakx-installer-stage2 with new urpmi.
</I>
Yes. Or you can backport the fix as patch. Or say &quot;that's just a bugfix&quot;
release. 

&gt;<i> eg if I fix sg in rpm, I've to wait for someone to actually push rpm
</I>&gt;<i> before asking to push perl-URPM to drakx-installer-stage2.
</I>
Perl-URPM would not require a version upgrade, so would not need anyone
to push, as well as drakxinstall-stage2.

Since a fix to rpm would be a patch, that's also no a version upgrade.

So for version freeze, there is no need of anything special.

And for release freeze, I would hope that we do not need fix that
requires to rebuild 4 differents rpms. At least not more than once...

&gt;<i> It can become way more painful for eg:
</I>&gt;<i> dietlibc fix&gt;kmod|ldetect&gt;drakx-installer-binaries&gt;drakx-installer-images
</I>&gt;<i> eg: if would fix sg in dietlibc for kmod.
</I>&gt;<i> Thus I would have 4 requests with delays between each.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Or enable me to push new perl-URPM/urpmi/drakx* like I was able to
</I>&gt;<i> do in the old days
</I>
No, for the aformentioned reasons.

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