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    <B>Matthew Dawkins</B> 
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<PRE>On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;wrote:

&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/03/12 19:43 did gyre and gimble:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 02.03.2012 19:55, Thomas Backlund wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hello!
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people
</I>&gt;<i> can't
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; NO.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As stated a million times before...
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; qt3 is obsolete
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sad..
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia on a dozen of machines) can't switch the next dozen because of
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software (
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml">http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml</A> ), the other can't use his
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to use Fedora or KDE4.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If the &quot;obsolete&quot; part is the only reason, then it's not too strong..
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of Qt3.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     This means we are the new &quot;upstream&quot; location for up-to-date Qt3
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; source code.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     Since there have been no updates or stable releases from
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; submit code to.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; use these versions in their proprietary projects.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3</A>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the main distros.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I am thoroughly unimpressed with this trinity stuff. Open Source
</I>&gt;<i> software gives people freedoms and that's good, but it doesn't stop them
</I>&gt;<i> making bad decisions.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Times move on. Why take a legacy bit of software and keep on developing
</I>&gt;<i> it? If they *really* cared so much for the KDE3 interface they would
</I>&gt;<i> port it to qt4 or even qt5, not limp on with outdated base layers.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
Funny you say that. I believe they tried with a pkg called qtinterface.
Don't quote me, but the gist of it was that qt4 has performance issues in
many areas.

It's all POV... I wouldn't call kde4 the panacea of DEs either... so in a
sense I agree with you in that it doesn't stop a group of ppl from making a
long set of bad decisions....

&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Col
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> --
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Day Job:
</I>&gt;<i>  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
</I>&gt;<i> Open Source:
</I>&gt;<i>  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
</I>&gt;<i>  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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