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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console</H1>
<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<I>Wed Mar 7 00:11:06 CET 2012</I>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:29 did gyre and gimble:
><i> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 21:19:49 schreef Colin Guthrie:
</I>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:09 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>>><i> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:52:02 schreef Colin Guthrie:
</I>>>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>>>>><i> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie:
</I>>>>>><i> [...]
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>>><i> Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to
</I>>>>>>><i> search for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and
</I>>>>>>><i> counts up. If so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start
</I>>>>>>><i> searching from 1 that way it would relatively consistently start on
</I>>>>>>><i> vt1 even when restarted from tty2.
</I>>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>>><i> Col
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> have you been successfull with 2 user sessions?
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> As in logging out and back in again or with fast user switching?
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> The former has worked quite happily for me. Not tested the latter but I
</I>>>>><i> expect there to be some quirks.
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Col
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> err, no, i mean 2 X sessions.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> often i have one KDE session running on vt8 and one for my wife on vt9
</I>>>><i> and sometimes on for my daughter at vt10...
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> OK, so fast user switching then.
</I>>><i>
</I>>>><i> the question is, with the prefdm only conflicting with the first getty,
</I>>>><i> will several X sessions be possible?
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Yeah. They should, in theory at least, start on vt2 and vt3, tho' this
</I>>><i> may depend on the desktop itself. With GDM+Gnome the second session
</I>>><i> starts on tty2, the third on tty3 etc.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> There is a caveat however. If you have switched to tty2 before picking
</I>>><i> the "Login as another user" option, then autovt will have kicked in and
</I>>><i> started a getty there. It then "hogs" tty2 and prevents X from using it.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Of course if I manage to get my idea working, switching to tty2 when in
</I>>><i> graphical.target will actually give you a graphical login prompt anyway,
</I>>><i> so pretty much the same thing as picking the "Login as another user"
</I>>><i> option from within the first graphical session.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Col
</I>><i>
</I>><i> ic...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> i do hope we get some kind of vt that will always be tty? i do sometimes
</I>><i> require that, when getting too much load and OOM'ing...
</I>
Yeah I agree here. That's why I originally suggested keeping some TTY
for text use (tho' I do still think the primary focus on a graphical
setup should be for graphical login hence why tty1-8 (ish) should be IMO
reserved for graphical logins, with text only on 9+ or similar. I think
that's a good compromise, even if it's not what the greybeards expect (I
do still consider myself to be a greybeard in some ways too here! I hope
no one takes this as derogatory :D)
><i> also, it'd be nice to have as possibility (in the dm) to start a tty session
</I>><i> instead of a graphical session (as an alternative)
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While I don't necessarily disagree with this, I think it should be very
much de-emphasised. Not obvious for novice users, but something power
users could find.
Take care
Col
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