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<H1>[Mageia-dev] ANN: For the brave. systemd v185 in cauldron updates_testing</H1>
<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and JA Magallón at 18/06/12 22:47 did gyre and gimble:
><i> On 06/18/2012 11:28 PM, JA Magallón wrote:
</I>>><i> Hi....
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Sorry for the delay, I've been busy with end-of-term festivals in
</I>>><i> my children' schools ;)...
</I>>><i>
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> - keyboard layout under Gnome got reset to English (from Spanish).
</I>>>>>><i> Changed manually under
</I>>>>>><i> system settings and fine again.
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> One addtional problem is that GDM starts with english keyboard which
</I>>><i> is a problem for passwords with non alpha-num chars... :).
</I>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Interesting. Does this new setting survive a reboot? Does the new
</I>>>>><i> mapping work at the system level (i.e. is the layout respected in GDM)?
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Yep, the setting survives a reboot for the user that changed it, but
</I>>><i> as I said above it does not change GDM settings. I did not try to do it
</I>>><i> with system tools, just user preferences.
</I>>><i> And keymap is OK in virtual consoles.
</I>>><i>
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Do you have a /etc/vconsole.conf file?
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Nop, I have not. I think system settings were in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard.
</I>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> OK, so I don't really understand why it's broken. I think it's maybe a
</I>>>><i> regression in that X is no longer inheriting settings from the console,
</I>>>><i> but I think longer term this is a valid thing (maybe there will not be a
</I>>>><i> console to inherit from in the future?)
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> So, it seems that systemd-localed will write an Xorg snippet into
</I>>>><i> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf when the keyboard is set. Thus
</I>>>><i> your setting of it via the Gnome System Settings will have written this
</I>>>><i> file (can you confirm it exists?) and it will remain there for the
</I>>>><i> remaining boots.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> This file does not exist in my box, I just used user prefs to change
</I>>><i> the map, not sytem ones.
</I>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Longer term, we need to make sure the installer runs this daemon for
</I>>>><i> fresh installs. And perhaps we should run it on upgrade automatically
</I>>>><i> too to ensure it's written as needed.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> I will try to write an /etc/vconsole.conf and see if it works.
</I>>><i> Perhaps the fix is just to write it from /etc/syscofig/keyboard...
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> This file did not work for GDM.
</I>
Yup, I realise now that it's only good for the console. I think in the
past we must have somehow inherited from the console but that's no
longer working (I could be wrong on this one).
><i> So i checked systemd-localed, it was not started and started it manually,
</I>><i> and then copied my settings to system in gnome settings tool.
</I>><i> That made the file in xorg.conf.d appear, and GDM was OK.
</I>
You shouldn't actually need to start it manually. It should start
on-demand (it's dbus activated). That worked here.
Strangely, I wasn't able to write the file immediately It somehow
detected my system settings as the same as my local settings and refused
to write a file. I think perhaps that my "local" settings were a little
bit broken tho' (years of upgrades I guess) and adding a layout,
removing it and then copying did indeed write the xorg.conf.d snippet.
><i> Perhaps udev/dbus do not talk to X server anymore about keyboard layout.
</I>
Well I'm not sure at what point X will talk to udev or dbus about this?
Maybe udev no longer carries locale information in it's db? Maybe it's
simply due to X being linked against an old libudev at the moment (until
this lands in the release repo)? That said I don't see any layout
information in my udev database for my console on mga2 machines. So I'm
not really sure how this stuff works to be honest.
><i> My settiongs in xorg.conf were:
</I>><i> Section "InputDevice"
</I>><i> Identifier "keyboard"
</I>><i> Driver "evdev"
</I>><i> # Option "XkbLayout" "es"
</I>><i> # Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
</I>><i> # Option "XkbOptions" ""
</I>><i> EndSection
</I>
Well these options are commented out so won't have any effect. Most of
the time xorg.conf isn't even needed any more, hence the desire to use
the xorg.conf.d folder instead.
><i> File generated by localed is:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> # Read and parsed by systemd-localed. It's probably wise not to edit
</I>><i> this file
</I>><i> # manually too freely.
</I>><i> Section "InputClass"
</I>><i> Identifier "system-keyboard"
</I>><i> MatchIsKeyboard "on"
</I>><i> Option "XkbLayout" "es"
</I>><i> EndSection
</I>><i>
</I>
Yup that seems correct.
Likely we'll need to update things accordingly to deal with this, but on
the whole I'm sure we'll get it working smoothly :)
Cheers
Col
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