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<H1>[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [4436] german keyboard: default to variant with enabled deadkeys instead of "nodeadkeys variant" ( mga#3791)</H1>
<B>Oliver Burger</B>
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<I>Mon Jul 30 14:49:41 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>Am 30.07.2012 14:41, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
><i> 2012/7/30 Thierry Vignaud<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>>><i> On 28 June 2012 02:51, Thierry Vignaud<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
</I>>>>>>><i> german keyboard: default to variant with enabled deadkeys instead
</I>>>>>>><i> of"nodeadkeys variant" (mga#3791)
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> Oups, why that?
</I>>>>>><i> As far as I'm concerned no deadkeys is the default for German users and
</I>>>>>><i> that's good!
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> Any reasons for this change?
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Call it "Competitive analysis" if you want. Keyboards comes with those
</I>>>>><i> little keys that are meant to produce accented characters in
</I>>>>><i> combination with regular letters, and this how it works on Windows,
</I>>>>><i> the platform most users will migrate from, and also on Mac OS X.
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Regular users don't have any use of stand-alone-accent-characters. And
</I>>>>><i> even with deadkeys it is easy to produce the standalone accent by just
</I>>>>><i> pressing the key twice (so you can get backticks easily).
</I>>>>><i> If you're a programmer and are using a nodeadkeys variant for that
</I>>>>><i> reason, you're not the target population of a suggested default. (If
</I>>>>><i> you know what is meant with "deadkeys" and "nodeadkeys", you're not in
</I>>>>><i> target of that dialog, and have the knowledge to not accept the
</I>>>>><i> default, but choose the nodeadkeys variant that is listed right next
</I>>>>><i> to the regular variant).
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> The variant with deadkeys is called "German" without any addition for
</I>>>>><i> a reason. If nodeadkeys were the expected/more common choice, then it
</I>>>>><i> would be "German (international)" or "German (deadkeys)", like it is
</I>>>>><i> the case for the US-variants.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> So Olivier, do you agree with that change or not?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> It may be logical but German users have been taught to use
</I>><i> "nodeadkeys" for ages. Changing this now just because of semantics
</I>><i> does not seem to be a wise move (I always use "German"). But OTOH it
</I>><i> is not such a big thing. It will cause the usual number of questions
</I>><i> in the forums ("MAG3 breaks my keyboard!") but this will vanish over
</I>><i> the years. :)
</I>><i>
</I>This must have slipped my mind...
I concur with wobo. This change will cause such forums posts but that
will be solved soon after Mga3 release.
The question is, how do other distros do it? A colleague just told me,
his Ubuntu chose the no dead key variant by default.
What about Fedora and openSUSE or don't we care at all?
As for myself, I will just change it back on my systems so it's no big deal.
Oliver
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