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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [4436] german keyboard: default to variant with enabled deadkeys instead of &quot;nodeadkeys variant&quot; ( mga#3791)</H1>
    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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<PRE>2012/7/30 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
&gt;<i> On 28 June 2012 02:51, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> german keyboard: default to variant with enabled deadkeys instead
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of&quot;nodeadkeys variant&quot;  (mga#3791)
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</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Oups, why that?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As far as I'm concerned no deadkeys is the default for German users and
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that's good!
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any reasons for this change?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Call it &quot;Competitive analysis&quot; if you want. Keyboards comes with those
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> little keys that are meant to produce accented characters in
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> combination with regular letters, and this how it works on Windows,
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the platform most users will migrate from, and also on Mac OS X.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regular users don't have any use of stand-alone-accent-characters. And
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> even with deadkeys it is easy to produce the standalone accent by just
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> pressing the key twice (so you can get backticks easily).
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you're a programmer and are using a nodeadkeys variant for that
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reason, you're not the target population of a suggested default. (If
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you know what is meant with &quot;deadkeys&quot; and &quot;nodeadkeys&quot;, you're not in
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> target of that dialog, and have the knowledge to not accept the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> default, but choose the nodeadkeys variant that is listed right next
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to the regular variant).
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The variant with deadkeys is called &quot;German&quot; without any addition for
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a reason. If nodeadkeys were the expected/more common choice, then it
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> would be &quot;German (international)&quot; or &quot;German (deadkeys)&quot;, like it is
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the case for the US-variants.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So Olivier, do you agree with that change or not?
</I>
It may be logical but German users have been taught to use
&quot;nodeadkeys&quot; for ages. Changing this now just because of semantics
does not seem to be a wise move (I always use &quot;German&quot;). But OTOH it
is not such a big thing. It will cause the usual number of questions
in the forums (&quot;MAG3 breaks my keyboard!&quot;) but this will vanish over
the years. :)

-- 
wobo
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