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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Systemd improvement</H1>
<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<I>Tue Jul 24 13:11:10 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>[Just a friendly request but please don't include me in the TO or CC
fields here. I follow the list and by sending mails directly you run the
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'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 24/07/12 11:18 did gyre and gimble:
><i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
</I>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 24/07/12 10:47 did gyre and gimble:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> [...]
</I>><i>
</I>>>><i> No you misunderstood, if the system succeed to launch
</I>>>><i> '/usr/bin/ask-the-passphrase' or whatever its name is, it must wait an
</I>>>><i> answer for ever and not continue booting and finally claim "hey
</I>>>><i> surprising, I failed to boot w/o the passphrase".
</I>>>><i> The firest time it happend I really thought my system was broken.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> So what if you cannot enter your password and want to rescue the system?
</I>>><i> Should it still wait forever until you enter your passphrase? Or would
</I>>><i> you have to deliberately enter your passphrase wrong X number of times
</I>>><i> to get the the rescue mode?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Why would I be unable to enter my password ? Because I am too drunk ?
</I>><i> Then better to not be able to start the system. Because I forgot it ?
</I>><i> Well then I can reinstall, my data are lost.
</I>
:<i>p
</I>
Well perhaps, or maybe something else has messed up e.g. keymaps or
similar and it's now impossible (or bloody hard) to enter the passphrase
correctly.
><i> Even in rescue mode, I must be able to enter my passphrase, it's a
</I>><i> unrelated issue.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I may point there is a failsafe menu in grub.
</I>
Yes, but shouldn't there be a different way to deal with it? e.g. if I
have /home encrypted, but I want to use rescue mode to fix a broken
keymap I don't want to be presented with a password dialog which I then
specifically have dismiss by entering something wrong three times (or
whatever). That's not good UI.
I'm just suggesting that this process needs a bit of thought to it and
was trying to kick start that thought process.
I still think this is a discussion best had upstream.
Col
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