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<H1>[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR <= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases</H1>
<B>Jeff Robins</B>
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<I>Fri Jan 13 23:10:53 CET 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>> wrote:
><i> Op vrijdag 13 januari 2012 20:59:19 schreef Jeff Robins:
</I>><i> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:00 AM, andre999 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>>
</I>><i> wrote:
</I>><i> > > Wait.
</I>><i> > > A long-term release version is kept updated for bugs, particularly
</I>><i> > > security bugs, but doesn't add new features.
</I>><i> > > Since it doesn't add new features, it is less likely to introduce new
</I>><i> > > bugs, and so would be more secure.
</I>><i> > > (That is why, in case you haven't noticed, that Firefox has more
</I>><i> security
</I>><i> > > issues than Seamonkey, which is one step behind Firefox in adopting new
</I>><i> > > features.)
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > So if you want a stable, secure browser, prefer among Mozilla browsers
</I>><i> > > the Firefox long-term release, or for more stable, Seamonkey.
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > For the minority of users who want the latest features, despite the
</I>><i> > > greater risk, like the cauldron of Mozilla, it is easy to download the
</I>><i> > > latest Firefox release, direct from upstream. (It will be available
</I>><i> > > there at least a week sooner.)
</I>><i> > > Upstream Firefox by default warns when the latest update is available.
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > --
</I>><i> > > André
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > I think André is entirely correct and the ESR should meet the
</I>><i> requirements
</I>><i> > for a long-term Mageia. The ESR will get all of the security updates,
</I>><i> but
</I>><i> > not the new features so any argument about needing the latest to stay
</I>><i> > secure is invalid. (
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/show/5378/mozilla-announces-firefox-extended-suppo">http://www.anandtech.com/show/5378/mozilla-announces-firefox-extended-suppo</A>
</I>><i> > rt-release )
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Also, the next upstream will be moving to quiet updates, unless Firefox
</I>><i> > hasn't been restarted in the last 12 hours. So, users that want the
</I>><i> latest
</I>><i> > can use the upstream and be automatically updated.
</I>><i> > (
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://letsbytecode.com/general/10-firefox-will-be-updated-on-the-quiet/">http://letsbytecode.com/general/10-firefox-will-be-updated-on-the-quiet/</A>)
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > My only concern is the difference in release times. Mageia's is 9months
</I>><i> > and Mozilla is 1year. Nine months from Mageia's 1st long-term release,
</I>><i> > Mozilla will still be on the same FF, and will update FF in the middle of
</I>><i> > the second Mageia long-term release. This would create more work and a
</I>><i> > long-term Mageia, which will have a major component update during the
</I>><i> > long-term support period.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > --Jeff
</I>><i>
</I>><i> look at the picture for the support period, the 1y warranteed versions
</I>><i> cross
</I>><i> over for 2 or 3 months
</I>><i>
</I>><i> so it's going to fit for as long as we have 9m release schedule
</I>><i>
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The 2-3 month overlap doesn't solve our problem. Assuming that we both
start on the same month of the same year, which we aren't, and call it
January 2012:
Jan 2012 (good):
We do long-term 1 and Mozilla does ESR1.
Sept 2012(good):
We do long-term 2 and Mozilla has just released FF ESR2.
June 2013(bad):
We do long-term 3, but Mozilla won't release FF ESR3 until Sept 2013. FF
ESR2 is defunct as of Jan 2013. We only get 3 months of support on ESR2 for
long-term 3.
March 2014(good):
We do long-term 4 and Mozilla released FF ESR3 in Sept. We get support
until Dec 2015, which is when we release long-term 5.
--Jeff
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