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<B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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<PRE>On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 16:04, ptyxs <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ptyxs at free.fr</A>> wrote:
><i> Le 08/01/2012 16:59, Pascal Terjan a écrit :
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 16:48, Thomas Spuhler<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>>  wrote:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> On Friday, January 06, 2012 12:57:39 PM Sander Lepik wrote:
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</I>>>>><i> 06.01.2012 21:06, Dale Huckeby kirjutas:
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</I>>>>>><i> Evidently once I've installed package A which requests X, sometimes
</I>>>>>><i> packages F, L, and T might subsequently get installed which also need X
</I>>>>>><i> *and presumably would have requested it had it not already been
</I>>>>>><i> installed*.  But when I uninstall A it orphans X because A is the only
</I>>>>>><i> package that *requested* it.  When F, L, and T are installed can't all
</I>>>>>><i> the packages they *would have requested* be marked whether or not
</I>>>>>><i> they're already installed?  That way a package would be orphaned only
</I>>>>>><i> when the last package that needs it is uninstalled?  Or am I missing
</I>>>>>><i> something?
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> This is already so. See example: <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/AMj87QiV">http://pastebin.com/AMj87QiV</A> - after
</I>>>>><i> first
</I>>>>><i> urpme libplasmaweather4 should be marked as orphan but it's not as it's
</I>>>>><i> still required by other package.
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> --
</I>>>>><i> Sander
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> It seems to me, auto-orphans gives more headaches than benefits. Why are
</I>>>><i> we
</I>>>><i> clinching to it?
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Because I and meany other people finding it useful never faced any
</I>>><i> problems on their machine with it.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> The only problems I can remember are:
</I>>><i> - people wanted to remove some things required by task-kde, which
</I>>><i> implied removing task-kde, and then all of kde was orphan. I think
</I>>><i> many things were move to suggests since
</I>>><i> - some kind of install was installing packages requested by nothing
</I>>><i> and they were not marked as requested so they were listed as orphans,
</I>>><i> but this was fixed long ago
</I>>><i>
</I>><i> I recently installed Okular then i removed xpdf and then used auto-orphans :
</I>><i> I immedialtely lost any possibility to use wifi...
</I>
What would be useful would be to know what package was removed, and
how it had been installed
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