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<PRE>><i> 2012/1/6 Guillaume Rousse <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>>><i> Le 06/01/2012 16:13, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
</I>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Ah, I see your reasoning, of course, if the packager forgot to name
</I>>>><i> the requires then urpmi declares them as orphans. But then, to be
</I>>>><i> safe, you have to forget about auto-orphans altogether because you can
</I>>>><i> not be sure that all packagers did their homework.
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</I>>><i> Then you have to forget about using packages because you're not sure
</I>>><i> packagers did their work correctly.
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</I>><i> I'd argue like that as well if we were in court. But it's not the
</I>><i> same: if a packager misses something and the installation does not
</I>><i> work, so what? I can use another package or distribution. But if he
</I>><i> causes urpmi to regard a needed package as orphan and lets me remove
</I>><i> it the system can break, now that is a problem.
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> So far, still no one proved than 'orphan' status was wrong regarding
</I>>><i> urpmi
</I>>><i> definition of what is an orphan package, rather than regarding their own
</I>>><i> personal expectation.
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</I>><i> Yes, because the user does not care about any such definitions when he
</I>><i> reads on the console or in rpmdrake "These packages are orphans now,
</I>><i> you can safely remove them". I'd suggest to change this sentence ASAP
</I>><i> into "If you are sure that it will not break anything you can remove
</I>><i> them now". This would be a better advice for the user than "you can
</I>><i> safely remove".
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True that the user does not and should not care about definitions of an
orphan, but also, the user should not be put in a situation where he/she
will have to go hunting for what could or could not break anything.
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