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<B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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<I>Fri Jan 6 16:27:47 CET 2012</I>
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<PRE>On 6 January 2012 16:13, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote:
>>>>><i> This is just a bogus claim:
</I>>>>>><i> If some apps break after removing orphan packages, they'll break too
</I>>>>>><i> after manually removing such packages, meaning they lack some
</I>>>>>><i> requires...
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</I>>>>><i> Yes, right, I'd not remove such packages manually - they were marked
</I>>>>><i> as orphans and removed by the function - which is my claim.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> To make it clear - my claim is that the orphan function marked
</I>>>><i> packages as orphans which are needed and which I'd never remove
</I>>>><i> manually. If you have a list of 100 "orphans" it is next to impossible
</I>>>><i> for a normal user to sit down and check each and every package if it
</I>>>><i> is really an orphan (orphan in the sense of "not needed").
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> I never say you manually removed them.
</I>>><i> Again, if packages break after urpme --auto-orphans, they can break
</I>>><i> after manually removing packages, thus the issue is that those
</I>>><i> packages lacks requires on needed components.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Ah, I see your reasoning, of course, if the packager forgot to name
</I>><i> the requires then urpmi declares them as orphans. But then, to be
</I>><i> safe, you have to forget about auto-orphans altogether because you can
</I>><i> not be sure that all packagers did their homework.
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You'll still break minimal install + manual choices.
Those've to be fixed
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