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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor</H1>
    <B>Steven Tucker</B> 
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<PRE>Hi all,

I would like to make comment on the Mentoring system, and hopefully I 
will convey it, and be interpreted in the best possible spirit.
I am glad Kyle has now had an offer to be mentored and by no means wish 
to stop this or interfere in anyway, however I felt quite deflated when 
I read the offer to mentor him, and I imagine others would too, so I 
feel obligated to comment.

There is a list on the wiki of people looking for mentors

<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packaging_apprentice_candidates">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packaging_apprentice_candidates</A>

Kyle has indeed added his name to the list, however there are 5 people 
on the list before him, I have been on that list since mid January, and 
there is someone who has been waiting since late November.

All things being equal, shouldn't preference be given to the top 
(longest waiting) of the list?
Is there a reason why 5 people get overlooked, and someone who has been 
waiting 2 days is given a chance? If we are not as 
committed/capable/available/desirable can someone please let us know? I 
have already packaged a program I wrote and want added to Mageia, and I 
wait patiently for a Mentor, just to find the line has been cut.

Do I need to constantly have IRC on to be chosen? is there some 
unwritten rules about how to gain a mentor? If so please let me know so 
I can do these things.

I hope this is taken constructively, I don't wish for the mentoring 
offer to Kyle to be withdrawn, he sounds like he will be an asset to the 
packaging team, I do think though that you should consider the list 
first before making offers. If a person is not suitable, tell them so 
they can move on, perhaps package for another distro, whatever. Don't 
just leave them there to rot.

Tuxta

On 15/02/12 18:15, Shlomi Fish wrote:
&gt;<i> Hi Kyle,
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:15:46 -0600
</I>&gt;<i> Kyle Fletcher&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">kfletcher87 at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello all,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've been looking for a distro to join for awhile now and finally
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> landed with mageia.  I'm relatively new to it, but have enjoyed it so
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> far.  I've started teaching myself how to package and have packaged
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> two things so far.  (very unstable, but i'm working on it).  I have
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also put my name and info on the wiki
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager</A> so if there is
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anyone out there that would like to mentor me please let me know.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm also usually in IRC all the time under the name vitamin{, tho afk alot :)
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I'm willing to mentor you. Just note that I'm working on Wednesday, Thursday
</I>&gt;<i> and part of Sunday and don't have access to a Mageia system there (or
</I>&gt;<i> can authenticate for my Mageia account).
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> 	Shlomi Fish
</I>&gt;<i>
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