summaryrefslogtreecommitdiffstats
path: root/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-December/020735.html
blob: 0b0d1e0c5cddd721ab0862c6c5a2bc5cb99b1665 (plain)
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<HTML>
 <HEAD>
   <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
   </TITLE>
   <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
   <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Package%20drop%20request%3A%20ruby-ParseTree&In-Reply-To=%3C20121211063828.GB17548%40shikamaru.fr%3E">
   <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
   <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
   <LINK REL="Previous"  HREF="020732.html">
   <LINK REL="Next"  HREF="020736.html">
 </HEAD>
 <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree</H1>
    <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> 
    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Package%20drop%20request%3A%20ruby-ParseTree&In-Reply-To=%3C20121211063828.GB17548%40shikamaru.fr%3E"
       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree">shikamaru at shikamaru.fr
       </A><BR>
    <I>Tue Dec 11 07:38:28 CET 2012</I>
    <P><UL>
        <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="020732.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
</A></li>
        <LI>Next message: <A HREF="020736.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
</A></li>
         <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> 
              <a href="date.html#20735">[ date ]</a>
              <a href="thread.html#20735">[ thread ]</a>
              <a href="subject.html#20735">[ subject ]</a>
              <a href="author.html#20735">[ author ]</a>
         </LI>
       </UL>
    <HR>  
<!--beginarticle-->
<PRE>On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:41:38PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
&gt;<i> So what if we provide this library and someone uses it as a component in
</I>&gt;<i> some other app they write.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> They likely have an expectation that it will continue to be supported
</I>&gt;<i> and that any security vulnerabilities in it are detected and fixed.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> If we don't have a mechanism to remove (or at least very strongly
</I>&gt;<i> recommend to remove) package we no longer support, then we are leaving
</I>&gt;<i> users vulnerable.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> The orphans system is fine, but it's certainly not as strong a mechanism
</I>&gt;<i> as I think is needed.
</I>Well, that would be very lazy from that person not to test the app and
release it. Actually, the ruby community has a strong focus on test
driven development. Since that library is broken with ruby 1.9, it won&#8217;t
pass the first test. So no worries here. Actually, I&#8217;m pretty sure it
couldn&#8217;t even stay on the machine just because it is linked against
libruby.so.1.8, and we provide libruby.so.1.9.

In the ruby policy I added as a requirement a
Requires: ruby(abi) = version
I&#8217;m pleased to see this is now an automatic thing, meaning that a
package that&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t build won&#8217;t stand a chance to stay on people&#8217;s
machine.

That being said it still requires human intervention to remove it from
the mirrors.

To me this is a rather sane way to deal with the problem, because it&#8217;s
self-explanatory: the package can&#8217;t stay because its requirements are
not met. If you add it to task-obsolete, you provide no reason to the
user, most of the time the explanation is only a comment in
task-obsolete&#8217;s spec file.

Regards,
&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Col
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> -- 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Day Job:
</I>&gt;<i>   Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
</I>&gt;<i> Open Source:
</I>&gt;<i>   Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
</I>&gt;<i>   PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
</I>&gt;<i>   Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
</I>-- 
R&#233;my CLOUARD
() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail
/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
</PRE>





<!--endarticle-->
    <HR>
    <P><UL>
        <!--threads-->
	<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="020732.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
</A></li>
	<LI>Next message: <A HREF="020736.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
</A></li>
         <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> 
              <a href="date.html#20735">[ date ]</a>
              <a href="thread.html#20735">[ thread ]</a>
              <a href="subject.html#20735">[ subject ]</a>
              <a href="author.html#20735">[ author ]</a>
         </LI>
       </UL>

<hr>
<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
mailing list</a><br>
</body></html>