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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Task-obsolete and non-sense obsoletes</H1>
<B>nicolas vigier</B>
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<I>Mon Aug 13 17:49:33 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Tue, 07 Aug 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
><i> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Olivier Thauvin
</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote:
</I>><i> > Hi,
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Many people already complain about it, but for me task-obsolete must
</I>><i> > die.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I don't think so, but people should not be allowed to add random
</I>><i> obsoletes there.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > First I just remove but urpmi claim it must come back on my system...
</I>><i> > probably because it claim to replace lib64db5.2, even maybe still need
</I>><i> > it.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Secondly it contains non-sense dependencies:
</I>><i> > Obsoletes: lib64db5.2 < 5.2.42-3
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Any lib64db5.2 over this version will by definition obsoletes any
</I>><i> > packages having same name.
</I>><i> > So this mean anyone can keep the lib64db5.2 as soon the release tag
</I>><i> > is increased or someone push into mga 2 / update any libdb higher
</I>><i> > than 5.2.42 (5.2.43 for example).
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Moreover, any package lacking of requirements during an upgrade is
</I>><i> > removed by urpmi.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > I no-one complain, I'll do a major cleanup (eg removing everything at
</I>><i> > least everything starting by lib) in package this week
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > But I am still in favor to remove it. In past, package we didn't want to
</I>><i> > support anymore was just removed from mirrors, and this was enough to
</I>><i> > show their status.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But people will not be notified of it.
</I>><i> If a system is obsolete with the new distribution and known to break
</I>><i> things/contain major security problems, I think having a place to put
</I>><i> the obsoletes is good.
</I>><i> But really I wouldn't expect more than 2 or 3 such packages in a release...
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Maybe we could change task-obsolete to conflict with obsolete packages
instead of obsoleting them :
- people who want to remove unsupported packages from their system
install task-obsolete
- people who don't want to remove unsupported packages don't install
task-obsolete
This will also make urpmi/rpmdrake warn before removing packages,
instead of silently removing them.
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