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<H1>[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown</H1>
<B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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<I>Thu Aug 9 21:52:20 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On 9 August 2012 21:31, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote:
><i> 'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 09/08/12 20:04 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>><i> Yes because it totally makes sense to have a command to halt the
</I>>><i> operating system but leave the machine using some power for nothing
</I>>><i> (and preventing you from powering it on with wol). I am sure someone
</I>>><i> believes it can be useful in some strange scenario.
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</I>><i> It's very useful and it was essential for me during the previous release
</I>><i> to debug shutdown logic.
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That's off topic.
We hide kernel messages on boot despite them being usefull for debugging
And for end users, it's horrible: they think the computer is frozen.
If they didn't press <escape> before, they've no way to understand what
happen!
><i> I want to see and read the debug that happens here and with a regular
</I>><i> poweroff the debug disappears before you can read it. It's maybe not
</I>><i> something you want to use regularly, but it doesn't mean it's not
</I>><i> useful. There were always "poweroff" and "halt" commands - the names
</I>><i> speak for themselves, it's just people got used to broken behaviour in
</I>><i> the past. If you want to power your machine down, just type "poweroff".
</I>><i> If you want to halt it, then type "halt". Kinda self explanatory really.
</I>><i> Use the right tool for the right job :)
</I>
Yet it's again 12 years of pratice, against documentation on internet
and the like
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