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<H1>[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-21.mga3</H1>
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<I>Wed Aug 1 15:00:48 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
><i> Le 01/08/2012 09:31, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
</I>>><i> Le 01/08/2012 08:46, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
</I>>>><i> On 1 August 2012 05:29, fwang <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>> wrote:
</I>>>>><i> fwang <fwang> 3-21.mga3:
</I>>>>><i> + Revision: 277136
</I>>>>><i> - obsolete db5.2 in favour of db5.3
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> # urpmi --auto-select --keep -vv --debug
</I>>>><i> (...)
</I>>>><i> installed libreoffice-core-3.6.0.1-1.mga3.x86_64 is conflicting
</I>>>><i> because of unsatisfied libdb-5.2.so()(64bit)
</I>>>><i> unselecting task-obsolete-3-21.mga3.noarch
</I>>>><i> A requested package cannot be installed:
</I>>>><i> task-obsolete-3-21.mga3.noarch (in order to keep
</I>>>><i> libreoffice-core-3.6.0.1-1.mga3.x86_64)
</I>>>><i> Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
</I>>><i> Whoever had the brilliant idea of forcing package uninstallation just
</I>>><i> because "they are not supported anymore" deserve a good spanking...
</I>>><i> Especially when applied to libraries, whereas shipping them in specific
</I>>><i> versioned subpackage 'libfication' was meant precisely to avoid this
</I>>><i> issue.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Morevoer, it's quite ridiculous to focus on removing obsoleted package
</I>><i> from end users machines, without first cleaning our own
</I>><i> infrastructure: db5.2 is still present in the subversion repository,
</I>><i> for instance...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So, removing a package from the distribution should imply:
</I>><i> 1) removing it from the subversion repository
</I>><i> 2) removing it from the master package tree (adding obsoletes tag in
</I>><i> any package just for this is overkill)
</I>><i> 3) eventually removing it from end user machines, provided this last
</I>><i> step bring some added value (which is still unproven)
</I>><i>
</I>+1
This last point reminds me of the obsoletes of openoffice put in the
libreoffice spec, when there was no real conflicts and there were some
differences. So a regression in libreoffice required me to install
upstream libreoffice so I could install openoffice alongside, to work
around the regressions when I needed to.
So definitely no added value.
These obsoletes are still there.
--
André
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