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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Important and urgent: people with ati cards needed on beta3 pre release qa</H1>
    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Oliver Burger at 18/04/12 07:41 did gyre and gimble:
&gt;<i> Am 18.04.2012 01:24, schrieb Anssi Hannula:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 18.04.2012 01:27, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Oliver Burger at 17/04/12 22:15 did gyre and gimble:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> we have some kind of an ugly problem with ati cards on beta3 pre
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> relase.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> After installing the dvd it just won't boot.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Don't you mean &quot;X does not start&quot; rather than &quot;it just won't boot&quot;? Or
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have I missed something fundamental here?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I already somewhat wasted your time earlier because I got you to get all
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sorts of interesting debug for me because I thought it was a boot/init
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> problem, but it turns out X is just failing to initialise the vesa
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> driver.... have I missed some details on this problem?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I indeed thought that Oliver had said he had no /var/log/Xorg.0.log
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> after first boot and thus it didn't even try to start X... But
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> apparently that wasn't the case after all, so maybe I misunderstood (or
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> misread).
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've added a comment in the bugreport.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> At first boot, X doesn't start at all, the system hangs before that.
</I>
OK, so this would be interesting to me. I guess I'll need the logs from
that first boot to debug things.

Some questions:
 1. Ideally, if you can reproduce this, can you add the following to the
kernel command line before first boot: &quot;systemd.log_level=debug
systemd.log_target=kmsg&quot; (it will obviously require a reinstall. I
suspect this could be related to
<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4772">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4772</A> but as I've not been able
to reproduce this on any of my VMs, I suspect it may need some real
laptop h/w to reproduce which I don't have easy access to - I can switch
disks in my laptop but it's not exactly easy :s)

 2. Does the boot properly hang? What is the resolution? Does it just
sit there forever and never timeout in a kind of deadlock? Can you get
to tty2 to login?

 3. Assuming you cannot login, do the reboot and grab the
/var/log/dmesg.old file (as this will have the debug from the first
boot). If you can login, then just grab the /var/log/dmesg file.

Sorry I can't offer any more helpful advice until I can debug. But this
could be two separate and maybe (possibly related) issues that are being
debugged here: first boot hang and X config. It could be that the first
boot hang cause harddrake to be unable to do what it was supposed to on
first boot and thus left things in a less than ideal state for X setup?

Col

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