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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Broken database problem solved but not all well</H1>
    <B>Anne Wilson</B> 
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    <I>Mon Apr 16 16:15:34 CEST 2012</I>
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On 16/04/12 14:41, Colin Guthrie wrote:
&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 16/04/12 14:34 did gyre and
</I>&gt;<i> gimble:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BTW why not displaying a message &quot;switch to tty2 for a login&quot;?
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> In the normal case of X or prefdm.service failing, this is exactly
</I>&gt;<i> what happens (it's actually a message saying &quot;your graphical login
</I>&gt;<i> is broken blah blah, press any key to switch to multi-user.target
</I>&gt;<i> (aka runlevel 3&quot;.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> This  case is different (if I'm correct in my assumption). The fact
</I>&gt;<i> is that the non-lsb legacy initscripts impose a very, very strict
</I>&gt;<i> ordering on startup (based on their priority numbers in
</I>&gt;<i> /etc/rcX.d/S??foo filenames).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> This strict order is typically full of loops (a -&gt; b -&gt; c -&gt; a),
</I>&gt;<i> so somthing has to give. In order to do that systemd will delete
</I>&gt;<i> jobs to break the loop. Frequently this job turns out to be &quot;the
</I>&gt;<i> prefdm.server start job&quot;. When this happens we simply don't know
</I>&gt;<i> that things are failing in order ot display the error message
</I>&gt;<i> (likewise, if we added a totally separate unit for this it too
</I>&gt;<i> could be deleted by these jobs).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Ultimately the correctly solution is to provide native systemd or 
</I>&gt;<i> LSB-compliant sysvinit scripts.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I've fixed a couple and have previously linked a spreadsheet where 
</I>&gt;<i> everyone can help out and track progress etc.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Col
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>Will the development team gain anything from this thread?  If not, I'm
tempted to try a fresh installation, but if there is gain I will
continue to fight it.

Anne
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