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<B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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<PRE>Στις 12 Απριλίου 2012 7:50 π.μ., ο χρήστης Wolfgang Bornath <
<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> έγραψε:
><i> 2012/4/11 Dimitrios Glentadakis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>><i> > Στις 11/04/2012 19:11:55 Wolfgang Bornath γράψατε:
</I>><i> >> 2012/4/11 Dimitrios Glentadakis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>><i> >> > Στις 11/04/2012 16:05:23 γράψατε:
</I>><i> >> >> * I am not at home, actually how much space they take ? For what
</I>><i> kind of
</I>><i> >> >> size we are talking about ?
</I>><i> >> >
</I>><i> >> > The /usr/share/doc/HTML/en folder has a size of 43.5 MiB, which even
</I>><i> now if it takes a lot of place anyone can delete this folder from his
</I>><i> system.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> We are not talking about deleting data from the harddisk. We are
</I>><i> >> talking about installing and uninstalling, not just deleting. The
</I>><i> >> issue is to avoid the installation (if not wanted) and consequently
</I>><i> >> avoid updates.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> I expected the discussion about the technical options to be quite long
</I>><i> >> and not at all trivial, I did not expect such a discussion about the
</I>><i> >> "why". There are valid use cases which answer the "why" quite clear
</I>><i> >> and simple.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > I dont understand very well.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yes, I see.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > - We dont have a lot of space so we want to be able to uninstall some
</I>><i> software and it has to be the documentation as the most unwanted ?
</I>><i> > - We want for a question of free choice to be able to choose if we want
</I>><i> the documentation to be installed or not ? but this has to be the same for
</I>><i> all kde software and dependencies, why is the documentation the problem.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We have been talking about handbooks because they are single packages
</I>><i> (not included in the software package) which are not needed/wanted by
</I>><i> everybody and they are not necessary to run the software.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > Dont forget that is a part of KDE and it has a global shortcut F1 to
</I>><i> access it. If there is a case that it will be not available until the user
</I>><i> install it in a additionally way, it breaks the upstream software.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> The important word in your sentence is "if". This does not apply to
</I>><i> simple applications like kcalc or some simple games or whatever you
</I>><i> may regard as "simple apps". And as said before: it does not break the
</I>><i> upstream software.
</I>><i>
</I>
I don't agree, i consider the handbook as a part of the application, and
for me a KDE installation without the handbooks it is a broken installation.
My opinion is that the person who does nt want it has to uninstall it and
not that the person who want it has to install it
><i>
</I>><i> > It is truth that i spend a lot of time to translate documentation, and i
</I>><i> do it with love, so it is normal that i have a preference in their
</I>><i> existence in the system; certainly i cannot use this argument here.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yes, you have to live with that like we all have to. I already said that.
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Yes i have to ...IF finally a such decision will be taken
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