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    <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B> 
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<PRE>2012/4/7 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
&gt;<i> If thos of you lucky enough to have missed the beginning of the story, here
</I>&gt;<i> are the importants parts:
</I>&gt;<i> - first round: bug #4357, still marked as release blocker (despite a bit
</I>&gt;<i> excessive IMHO)
</I>&gt;<i> - second round: discussion on -dev, archived here:
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/013342.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/013342.html</A>
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</I>&gt;<i> The whole issue turns around the unfortunate consequence of adding new
</I>&gt;<i> dependencies, for various reasons, between packages and in installer:
</I>&gt;<i> bloated minimal installation. In this case, this is about a specific *soft*
</I>&gt;<i> dependency from gnome-keyring to seahorse, which has painful consequences,
</I>&gt;<i> as outline by TV in comment #5 of the original report.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Suggestion sofar for this initial problem have been suggested:
</I>&gt;<i> 1) move the gnome-keyring -&gt; seahorse soft dependency either in task-gnome,
</I>&gt;<i> or task-gnome-minimal
</I>&gt;<i> 2) turn the mandatory dependency between libgnome-keyring to gnome-keyring
</I>&gt;<i> into a soft dependency
</I>&gt;<i> - Olav (or anyone else), do you have any objection to *also* move the soft
</I>&gt;<i> dependency from gnome-keyring to seahorse to either task-gnome or
</I>&gt;<i> task-gnome-minimal ?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>I've made the changes of 1) and 2) locally:
- remove Suggests: seahorse in gnome-keyring
- add Suggests: seahorse in task-gnome-minimal
- change Requires: gnome-keyring in libgnome-keyring to Suggests

If there's no objection, I would like to commit to svn and someone can
submit it before beta3. We can test it and decide to keep or revert it
before RC.

Thanks.
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