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    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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<PRE>Le 08/04/2012 17:06, David Walser a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/4/7 Sander Lepik &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sander.lepik at eesti.ee</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 07.04.2012 19:18, Thomas Spuhler kirjutas:
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</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Saturday, April 07, 2012 08:38:39 AM Guillaume Rousse wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To summarize it:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - has anyone any opposition to remove the totem-mozilla - KDE
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> relationship in the installer ?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'd go for this.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not so sure about that. Are there any other alternatives for that?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Firefox may be gtk app but most people still use it under KDE too. If you
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> remove those plugins then i would say usability will be hit.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> totem-mozilla does not seem to be a dependency for Firefox. I'm using
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Firefox but totem-mozilla is one of those packages I unmark everytime
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in individual package selection without any regression for Firefox.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I was under the impression talking to ennael on IRC a few weeks ago that this was already going to happen.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> totem is not needed and is the first thing I uninstall on new installations as well.  If you need FF plugins, gecko-mediaplayer should have 
</I>&gt;<i> you covered.  If you need a video player, kmplayer, dragon player, or VLC do the job (I'm not sure which was decided to use by default in KDE 
</I>&gt;<i> Mageia, that's where the discussion with ennael left off).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>
totem was proposed in Mandriva as there was no stable enough video
player in KDE. Then we had Codeina managing codecs using only gstreamer.
That's all. :)



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